1 00:00:37,930 --> 00:00:33,010 [Music] 2 00:00:41,270 --> 00:00:37,940 the smoke radio for the masses of July 8 3 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:41,280 1947 the Army Air Forces has announced 4 00:00:46,190 --> 00:00:43,680 that a flying disc has been found and is 5 00:00:50,750 --> 00:00:46,200 now in the possession of the army 6 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:50,760 rigs change the game game changer I 7 00:00:57,110 --> 00:00:53,520 occasionally think how quickly hard 8 00:00:59,569 --> 00:00:57,120 difference is worldwide would vanish if 9 00:01:02,710 --> 00:00:59,579 we were facing an alien threat from 10 00:01:02,890 --> 00:01:02,720 outside this work 11 00:01:05,230 --> 00:01:02,900 [Applause] 12 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:05,240 [Music] 13 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:08,159 this is Fade to Black with your host 14 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio 15 00:01:15,230 --> 00:01:11,690 Network 16 00:01:22,210 --> 00:01:18,230 all right good evening 17 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:22,220 tonight it is Thursday December 8 18 00:01:28,910 --> 00:01:24,479 2022. I'm Yours Jimmy church this is 19 00:01:33,770 --> 00:01:28,920 faded black and we are going to do a 20 00:01:37,069 --> 00:01:33,780 deep dive into the Fermi paradox 21 00:01:39,410 --> 00:01:37,079 and this is important uh for a lot of 22 00:01:41,990 --> 00:01:39,420 reasons and it this is going to be in 23 00:01:44,569 --> 00:01:42,000 depth it's going to be comprehensive uh 24 00:01:47,450 --> 00:01:44,579 no illustrations just talk 25 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:47,460 um there's not a whole lot by the way uh 26 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:50,939 out there to represent uh what the Fermi 27 00:01:56,389 --> 00:01:53,759 Paradox is I could show but but images 28 00:01:59,149 --> 00:01:56,399 of flying saucers and starships and 29 00:02:00,469 --> 00:01:59,159 planets and stuff but nah that uh 30 00:02:01,969 --> 00:02:00,479 doesn't have a whole lot to do with 31 00:02:05,530 --> 00:02:01,979 anything 32 00:02:08,749 --> 00:02:05,540 um yeah but it is important today 33 00:02:11,229 --> 00:02:08,759 uh more than ever before 34 00:02:16,010 --> 00:02:11,239 because if we 35 00:02:19,130 --> 00:02:16,020 discuss the basics of the Fermi paradox 36 00:02:21,170 --> 00:02:19,140 um the way it was brought out and and 37 00:02:23,570 --> 00:02:21,180 discussed you know going back to 1950 38 00:02:26,330 --> 00:02:23,580 and I'll talk about that in a second 39 00:02:27,890 --> 00:02:26,340 um how would that apply today in uh 2022 40 00:02:30,589 --> 00:02:27,900 with everything else that is going on 41 00:02:33,290 --> 00:02:30,599 and and how we have advanced in science 42 00:02:35,570 --> 00:02:33,300 right it's uh it's uh it's an 43 00:02:38,570 --> 00:02:35,580 interesting thing because 44 00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:38,580 well I would suggest and I'm going to 45 00:02:44,930 --> 00:02:41,280 circle back to this many times tonight 46 00:02:48,650 --> 00:02:44,940 that I don't think uh Fermi 47 00:02:50,089 --> 00:02:48,660 Enrico Enrico for me would ask the same 48 00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:50,099 question 49 00:02:56,650 --> 00:02:54,000 so what is the Fermi Paradox what am I 50 00:03:00,850 --> 00:02:56,660 talking about here it is one of the most 51 00:03:05,089 --> 00:03:00,860 interesting subjects uh that I 52 00:03:09,650 --> 00:03:05,099 continually digest I am constantly 53 00:03:12,890 --> 00:03:09,660 chewing on this and and looking at all 54 00:03:17,089 --> 00:03:12,900 of the different uh filters and answers 55 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:17,099 uh to the Fermi Paradox and how some of 56 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:20,400 the great minds uh over the years and 57 00:03:26,509 --> 00:03:22,800 decades have thought about the Fermi 58 00:03:30,170 --> 00:03:26,519 Paradox and applied their thoughts to it 59 00:03:31,369 --> 00:03:30,180 um now Enrico Fermi uh is uh was a 60 00:03:35,210 --> 00:03:31,379 physicist 61 00:03:37,430 --> 00:03:35,220 and without going into all of his 62 00:03:39,710 --> 00:03:37,440 accomplishments because that's just an 63 00:03:42,530 --> 00:03:39,720 entire show right there but he's got 64 00:03:44,509 --> 00:03:42,540 Laboratories and complexes and buildings 65 00:03:45,910 --> 00:03:44,519 named after him 66 00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:45,920 um all around the world 67 00:03:54,289 --> 00:03:50,840 and uh his his knowledge and his vision 68 00:03:58,309 --> 00:03:54,299 uh Advanced science and Advance this 69 00:04:01,729 --> 00:03:58,319 planet uh but by leaps by leaps his 70 00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:01,739 contributions to science are are things 71 00:04:05,690 --> 00:04:04,319 that just cannot be measured but we talk 72 00:04:10,670 --> 00:04:05,700 about them all the time 73 00:04:14,210 --> 00:04:10,680 and his name is associated with the 74 00:04:17,870 --> 00:04:14,220 Paradox because of a conversation 75 00:04:20,569 --> 00:04:17,880 that happened back in the summer of 1950 76 00:04:23,150 --> 00:04:20,579 and the story now you know what is a 77 00:04:26,830 --> 00:04:23,160 legend and what is legendary right well 78 00:04:30,650 --> 00:04:26,840 go and look up those uh definitions 79 00:04:32,930 --> 00:04:30,660 because it is stuff of Legend today this 80 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:32,940 this conversation 81 00:04:40,670 --> 00:04:35,759 um with fellow physicist Edward Teller 82 00:04:42,850 --> 00:04:40,680 right Herbert York and Emil uh uh Connor 83 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:42,860 Pinsky now 84 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:48,960 while at lunch in the cafeteria 85 00:04:54,469 --> 00:04:51,440 um at Los Alamos 86 00:04:56,030 --> 00:04:54,479 uh they they were discussing what was 87 00:04:57,650 --> 00:04:56,040 going on around the country at that time 88 00:05:03,350 --> 00:04:57,660 which was 89 00:05:05,230 --> 00:05:03,360 this is 1950 a lot of UFO sightings okay 90 00:05:07,790 --> 00:05:05,240 flying saucers 91 00:05:09,530 --> 00:05:07,800 everywhere it was the headlines it was 92 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:09,540 the news it was the radio it was TVs 93 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:11,120 magazines 94 00:05:17,210 --> 00:05:14,160 and uh that that was the conversation so 95 00:05:20,590 --> 00:05:17,220 you get a bunch of scientists around uh 96 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:20,600 the the table in a cafeteria over lunch 97 00:05:24,430 --> 00:05:23,400 and this is what is going to be talked 98 00:05:26,990 --> 00:05:24,440 about 99 00:05:29,090 --> 00:05:27,000 and one of the things and especially 100 00:05:31,870 --> 00:05:29,100 when you get physicists together 101 00:05:36,110 --> 00:05:31,880 and and and back then 102 00:05:39,170 --> 00:05:36,120 uh Einstein well one was still alive but 103 00:05:42,590 --> 00:05:39,180 but Einstein was the center of 104 00:05:44,629 --> 00:05:42,600 everything and one of the biggest 105 00:05:47,689 --> 00:05:44,639 contributions that Einstein brought was 106 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:47,699 E equals m c squared and the speed of 107 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:50,880 light and that nothing could travel 108 00:05:54,350 --> 00:05:53,280 faster than the speed of light so these 109 00:05:58,610 --> 00:05:54,360 guys are sitting around the table 110 00:06:00,890 --> 00:05:58,620 discussing how these flying saucers were 111 00:06:04,370 --> 00:06:00,900 getting to Earth and with the vast 112 00:06:08,029 --> 00:06:04,380 distances in space and and how spread 113 00:06:11,689 --> 00:06:08,039 out things were just uh in our own Milky 114 00:06:15,230 --> 00:06:11,699 Way that these flying saucers would have 115 00:06:17,570 --> 00:06:15,240 to be traveling faster than the speed of 116 00:06:21,230 --> 00:06:17,580 light right and this is the conversation 117 00:06:24,110 --> 00:06:21,240 and as they sat there and talked 118 00:06:27,170 --> 00:06:24,120 um the conversation moved on uh to other 119 00:06:29,629 --> 00:06:27,180 topics uh you know flying saucers 120 00:06:33,350 --> 00:06:29,639 getting here the sightings the amount of 121 00:06:35,029 --> 00:06:33,360 things and and they talk about the size 122 00:06:39,529 --> 00:06:35,039 of the Milky Way 123 00:06:42,650 --> 00:06:39,539 and how many planets must be out there 124 00:06:45,950 --> 00:06:42,660 with with the vast stars and and you got 125 00:06:47,689 --> 00:06:45,960 to remember this is 1950 so the count of 126 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:47,699 everything was off and we will go back 127 00:06:51,710 --> 00:06:50,460 and visit all of that uh tonight many 128 00:06:56,330 --> 00:06:51,720 times 129 00:06:58,790 --> 00:06:56,340 and uh so uh so Fermi 130 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:58,800 starts calculating 131 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:00,960 okay and he's sitting there and 132 00:07:05,570 --> 00:07:02,639 everybody was watching him and he was 133 00:07:07,610 --> 00:07:05,580 thinking he said man this has got to be 134 00:07:10,610 --> 00:07:07,620 there's got to be hundreds of millions 135 00:07:11,450 --> 00:07:10,620 of civilizations out there there has to 136 00:07:16,129 --> 00:07:11,460 be 137 00:07:18,050 --> 00:07:16,139 but and he blurts out I'm the The Legend 138 00:07:21,230 --> 00:07:18,060 goes you know he yells out 139 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:24,409 but where is everybody 140 00:07:29,210 --> 00:07:25,680 right 141 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:29,220 now although the exact quote is 142 00:07:33,290 --> 00:07:30,960 uncertain 143 00:07:35,710 --> 00:07:33,300 that's uh that's the Fermi Paradox 144 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:35,720 there's got to be vast life out there 145 00:07:40,969 --> 00:07:38,400 but where is everybody right there's got 146 00:07:44,570 --> 00:07:40,979 to be vast life that's the paradox 147 00:07:47,270 --> 00:07:44,580 to be full of life teeming with life 148 00:07:52,129 --> 00:07:47,280 but where is everybody now 149 00:07:55,129 --> 00:07:52,139 in in the context that Fermi was 150 00:07:57,529 --> 00:07:55,139 probably thinking about and again uh we 151 00:08:00,170 --> 00:07:57,539 can't all get inside of his head 152 00:08:03,409 --> 00:08:00,180 but he was thinking a little bit more 153 00:08:07,370 --> 00:08:03,419 logically like a scientist and it wasn't 154 00:08:10,089 --> 00:08:07,380 that are are we being visited 155 00:08:13,850 --> 00:08:10,099 his thought processes 156 00:08:16,870 --> 00:08:13,860 communication you know visiting us all 157 00:08:19,309 --> 00:08:16,880 the time coming down Interstellar trade 158 00:08:22,670 --> 00:08:19,319 relationships that's what he was 159 00:08:26,749 --> 00:08:22,680 referring to not not the sightings the 160 00:08:30,050 --> 00:08:26,759 sightings is what spurred this this 161 00:08:32,389 --> 00:08:30,060 blurting out of but where is everybody 162 00:08:34,190 --> 00:08:32,399 but he was thinking 163 00:08:35,990 --> 00:08:34,200 that we should have friendships we 164 00:08:38,089 --> 00:08:36,000 should have relationships we should know 165 00:08:40,370 --> 00:08:38,099 about these civilizations they should be 166 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:40,380 interested in us like Neighbors 167 00:08:46,730 --> 00:08:42,959 you know so where is everybody 168 00:08:49,310 --> 00:08:46,740 and now the reason why I say that he 169 00:08:54,290 --> 00:08:49,320 probably wouldn't say it today 170 00:08:55,850 --> 00:08:54,300 or at least the same way or with the 171 00:08:57,410 --> 00:08:55,860 same mindset 172 00:08:59,870 --> 00:08:57,420 is 173 00:09:05,630 --> 00:08:59,880 we see things now 174 00:09:08,750 --> 00:09:05,640 conversations about uaps and UFOs and 175 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:08,760 and videos and photographs and and fast 176 00:09:14,870 --> 00:09:10,800 radio bursts in the web telescope and 177 00:09:16,970 --> 00:09:14,880 and exoplanets and everything that we we 178 00:09:19,130 --> 00:09:16,980 study today and know today and are 179 00:09:22,130 --> 00:09:19,140 investigating today and asking questions 180 00:09:27,290 --> 00:09:22,140 about today they weren't anywhere near 181 00:09:32,090 --> 00:09:27,300 that back in 1950 so would in in Rico 182 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:32,100 today ask the same question probably not 183 00:09:40,910 --> 00:09:37,320 probably not I and and I think that the 184 00:09:44,269 --> 00:09:40,920 the general agreement 185 00:09:46,370 --> 00:09:44,279 of scientists and certainly the world 186 00:09:48,790 --> 00:09:46,380 population but scientists in general the 187 00:09:50,829 --> 00:09:48,800 the big thinkers out there 188 00:09:54,110 --> 00:09:50,839 especially of the hard Sciences 189 00:09:58,190 --> 00:09:54,120 understand the size of the universe now 190 00:10:01,370 --> 00:09:58,200 the size of the Milky Way and and what 191 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:01,380 chemistry is and and how the universe uh 192 00:10:08,150 --> 00:10:03,360 it builds itself and how stars are 193 00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:08,160 created and and they know that life is 194 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:09,720 everywhere what we know today about 195 00:10:15,170 --> 00:10:13,200 amino acids and and and what is carried 196 00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:15,180 around on asteroids and everything else 197 00:10:21,050 --> 00:10:18,540 and the possibility of a pan spermia and 198 00:10:24,070 --> 00:10:21,060 and and and and that will will Circle 199 00:10:26,030 --> 00:10:24,080 back to that too as well this knowledge 200 00:10:29,750 --> 00:10:26,040 changes everything 201 00:10:34,750 --> 00:10:29,760 and there was another part to this 202 00:10:38,329 --> 00:10:34,760 that the Fermi Paradox gets gets tied to 203 00:10:39,769 --> 00:10:38,339 all the time and for good reason 204 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:39,779 um but again something that's a little 205 00:10:48,829 --> 00:10:43,680 bit outdated is the Drake equation 206 00:10:51,590 --> 00:10:48,839 so when we look at that and Frank Drake 207 00:10:53,269 --> 00:10:51,600 um the theory what what is the what is 208 00:10:55,970 --> 00:10:53,279 the Drake equation well let's let's 209 00:11:00,050 --> 00:10:55,980 break this down a little bit 210 00:11:02,870 --> 00:11:00,060 in in a nutshell the Drake equation are 211 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:02,880 are a collection of theories and 212 00:11:06,290 --> 00:11:05,100 principles that are built into the Drake 213 00:11:10,009 --> 00:11:06,300 equation 214 00:11:12,829 --> 00:11:10,019 which closely relate back to the Fermi 215 00:11:15,949 --> 00:11:12,839 Paradox the equation was formulated by 216 00:11:19,250 --> 00:11:15,959 Frank Drake back in 1961. remember the 217 00:11:21,829 --> 00:11:19,260 conversation at Los Alamos with with Ed 218 00:11:25,370 --> 00:11:21,839 teller and Enrico for me that was 1950. 219 00:11:29,810 --> 00:11:25,380 11 years later Frank Drake uh came out 220 00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:29,820 with this sequence this algorithm in an 221 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:35,279 attempt to find a means uh to to 222 00:11:42,050 --> 00:11:36,480 evaluate 223 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:42,060 right and and to insert numbers and 224 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:43,800 projections 225 00:11:51,050 --> 00:11:47,040 that would be involved 226 00:11:54,110 --> 00:11:51,060 and help talk about the existence of 227 00:11:58,790 --> 00:11:54,120 alien knife uh alien life alien life 228 00:12:01,730 --> 00:11:58,800 alien life and now I'm not a physicist 229 00:12:04,310 --> 00:12:01,740 I'm not a mathematician nah I barely 230 00:12:05,829 --> 00:12:04,320 made it through geometry never went to 231 00:12:09,370 --> 00:12:05,839 Geometry too 232 00:12:14,210 --> 00:12:09,380 uh algebra one was was tough 233 00:12:19,910 --> 00:12:16,430 math and I 234 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:19,920 know but the equation 235 00:12:24,170 --> 00:12:21,600 and I'm going to go through this right 236 00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:24,180 now and if I quote it wrong and if I 237 00:12:28,850 --> 00:12:26,160 don't speak like a physicist or a 238 00:12:33,490 --> 00:12:28,860 mathematician you have to excuse me 239 00:12:37,850 --> 00:12:33,500 but uh the equation as I read it is n 240 00:12:39,949 --> 00:12:37,860 equals R times f p times n e times f l 241 00:12:43,490 --> 00:12:39,959 times f i 242 00:12:45,290 --> 00:12:43,500 times FC equals l 243 00:12:47,389 --> 00:12:45,300 all right 244 00:12:50,990 --> 00:12:47,399 now 245 00:12:54,170 --> 00:12:51,000 uh time zone 246 00:12:58,730 --> 00:12:54,180 and now how does this break down well n 247 00:13:02,629 --> 00:12:58,740 n equals write the equation n is the 248 00:13:05,030 --> 00:13:02,639 number of advanced civilizations in the 249 00:13:10,670 --> 00:13:05,040 Milky Way galaxy 250 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:10,680 and n equals is the product of that 251 00:13:16,730 --> 00:13:14,700 algorithm which breaks down like this R 252 00:13:19,009 --> 00:13:16,740 and I'm going to speak briefly about 253 00:13:21,530 --> 00:13:19,019 each one of these 254 00:13:24,889 --> 00:13:21,540 um because so much of it is based on 255 00:13:29,629 --> 00:13:24,899 opinion and Theory right so R is the 256 00:13:31,610 --> 00:13:29,639 rate of formation of stars in the galaxy 257 00:13:34,370 --> 00:13:31,620 and how many stars are in the galaxy in 258 00:13:37,069 --> 00:13:34,380 1950 versus the way we calculate things 259 00:13:39,710 --> 00:13:37,079 today and mapping out the Milky Way all 260 00:13:40,970 --> 00:13:39,720 right okay 261 00:13:55,790 --> 00:13:40,980 f 262 00:13:59,329 --> 00:13:55,800 and even that we are learning more and 263 00:14:02,030 --> 00:13:59,339 more about today versus 1950. this is 264 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:02,040 all guesswork but the fraction of those 265 00:14:06,949 --> 00:14:04,980 stars with planetary system so notice 266 00:14:10,370 --> 00:14:06,959 fraction 267 00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:10,380 so back then in 1961 268 00:14:15,710 --> 00:14:13,320 they were thinking 269 00:14:18,050 --> 00:14:15,720 we may be the only 270 00:14:21,470 --> 00:14:18,060 star system in the Milky Way with 271 00:14:23,509 --> 00:14:21,480 planets how many Star systems out there 272 00:14:26,750 --> 00:14:23,519 have planets you know and they were 273 00:14:29,629 --> 00:14:26,760 thinking planets were rare that's why FP 274 00:14:34,129 --> 00:14:29,639 is such a funky part of the Drake 275 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:34,139 equation today because now we know that 276 00:14:38,990 --> 00:14:36,720 every single star every single one has 277 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:39,000 got at least one planet that's what we 278 00:14:43,129 --> 00:14:41,040 base all of our numbers on today 279 00:14:46,490 --> 00:14:43,139 right so the the number that they were 280 00:14:51,530 --> 00:14:46,500 plugging in back in uh 1961 into the 281 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,540 Drake equation today that number is 282 00:14:55,610 --> 00:14:53,760 a trillion 283 00:14:57,710 --> 00:14:55,620 it's a different number back then so 284 00:15:00,949 --> 00:14:57,720 we'll Circle back to that then we have n 285 00:15:05,150 --> 00:15:00,959 e the number of planets per solar system 286 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:05,160 with an environment suitable for organic 287 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:06,000 life 288 00:15:12,410 --> 00:15:09,360 stop right there that's 1961. peer 289 00:15:14,990 --> 00:15:12,420 guesswork pure pure pure pure guesswork 290 00:15:17,389 --> 00:15:15,000 and it's such a low number 291 00:15:19,449 --> 00:15:17,399 because the number of planets is really 292 00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:19,459 low 293 00:15:22,970 --> 00:15:21,180 there was 294 00:15:25,550 --> 00:15:22,980 plenty of people that thought that maybe 295 00:15:27,230 --> 00:15:25,560 uh we were the only planets in the 296 00:15:29,689 --> 00:15:27,240 entire Milky Way 297 00:15:32,329 --> 00:15:29,699 right that we were all there is so 298 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:32,339 that's a that's a funky part of this 299 00:15:38,689 --> 00:15:36,000 algorithm then we have FL 300 00:15:43,970 --> 00:15:38,699 the fraction of those suitable planets 301 00:15:46,490 --> 00:15:43,980 were in organic life actually appears 302 00:15:49,009 --> 00:15:46,500 and obviously today we're we're 303 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:49,019 searching and searching Echo exoplanets 304 00:15:55,129 --> 00:15:52,920 with uh the web telescope but that's FL 305 00:15:56,930 --> 00:15:55,139 right 306 00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:56,940 f i 307 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:00,720 the fraction of habitable planets where 308 00:16:07,970 --> 00:16:04,800 an intelligent life actually appears now 309 00:16:09,710 --> 00:16:07,980 how do you even get to that number how 310 00:16:11,210 --> 00:16:09,720 do you plug that into the equation then 311 00:16:15,170 --> 00:16:11,220 you have FC 312 00:16:17,269 --> 00:16:15,180 the fraction of civilizations that reach 313 00:16:19,370 --> 00:16:17,279 the technological level whereby 314 00:16:22,129 --> 00:16:19,380 detectable signals 315 00:16:25,550 --> 00:16:22,139 may be dispatched 316 00:16:29,329 --> 00:16:25,560 and L the length of time that those 317 00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:29,339 civilizations dispatch their signals now 318 00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:30,959 I'm going to be talking about all of 319 00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:34,320 this tonight but especially those last 320 00:16:38,810 --> 00:16:37,199 four if not the entire Drake Equation 321 00:16:41,689 --> 00:16:38,820 but the last four 322 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:41,699 totally opinion based 323 00:16:48,530 --> 00:16:46,320 formation of stars in the galaxy today 324 00:16:49,850 --> 00:16:48,540 we can come up with a pretty solid 325 00:16:51,710 --> 00:16:49,860 number for that 326 00:16:53,389 --> 00:16:51,720 all right that's a pretty solid the 327 00:16:55,310 --> 00:16:53,399 number of planets per solar system with 328 00:16:56,930 --> 00:16:55,320 an environment suitable for our organic 329 00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:56,940 light the fraction of those stars or the 330 00:17:02,269 --> 00:17:00,480 planetary systems okay so the first two 331 00:17:04,909 --> 00:17:02,279 um excuse me 332 00:17:06,650 --> 00:17:04,919 the first two we can come up with pretty 333 00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:06,660 solid numbers now 334 00:17:12,230 --> 00:17:10,319 all right so really the second half of 335 00:17:15,650 --> 00:17:12,240 the equation 336 00:17:20,929 --> 00:17:15,660 um is has always been guesswork but the 337 00:17:24,169 --> 00:17:20,939 numbers now don't really apply now when 338 00:17:27,890 --> 00:17:24,179 this was all put together 1961 and Frank 339 00:17:30,169 --> 00:17:27,900 Drake went around uh with this equation 340 00:17:32,390 --> 00:17:30,179 and lectured a lot and people were very 341 00:17:34,549 --> 00:17:32,400 interested in it and was great there 342 00:17:38,029 --> 00:17:34,559 this was the first time where science 343 00:17:40,490 --> 00:17:38,039 applied something like this 344 00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:40,500 um and and people were very interested 345 00:17:46,370 --> 00:17:44,400 in it and Frank Drake 346 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:46,380 um now the the numbers changed over time 347 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:51,840 but the general number that he would 348 00:17:56,529 --> 00:17:53,520 come up with 349 00:17:59,930 --> 00:17:56,539 was ten thousand 350 00:18:02,750 --> 00:17:59,940 ten thousand civilizations out there 351 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:02,760 Advanced civilizations that could 352 00:18:06,830 --> 00:18:04,080 contact Earth 353 00:18:10,370 --> 00:18:06,840 right ten thousand 354 00:18:12,289 --> 00:18:10,380 um Frank and Carl Sagan worked on this 355 00:18:16,730 --> 00:18:12,299 uh quite a bit 356 00:18:17,870 --> 00:18:16,740 and as as they worked on this over over 357 00:18:20,330 --> 00:18:17,880 the years 358 00:18:23,150 --> 00:18:20,340 and and plugged in different numbers it 359 00:18:25,549 --> 00:18:23,160 would go down as far as 1 000 360 00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:25,559 civilizations and this is Frank and Carl 361 00:18:32,270 --> 00:18:28,320 working together but if they change the 362 00:18:35,529 --> 00:18:32,280 numbers around in the algorithm 363 00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:35,539 sometimes they reached a number of 100 364 00:18:43,490 --> 00:18:38,000 million civilizations 365 00:18:45,710 --> 00:18:43,500 just in the Milky Way galaxy now 366 00:18:47,529 --> 00:18:45,720 um there's a couple of other things to 367 00:18:52,010 --> 00:18:47,539 think about here 368 00:18:53,690 --> 00:18:52,020 when we look at uh especially Los Alamos 369 00:18:54,890 --> 00:18:53,700 and what was going on in New Mexico at 370 00:18:57,230 --> 00:18:54,900 that time 371 00:18:59,210 --> 00:18:57,240 um you had uh Von Neumann uh another 372 00:19:01,789 --> 00:18:59,220 physicist from Hungary 373 00:19:04,190 --> 00:19:01,799 and they were all from Hungary by the 374 00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:04,200 way it seems like 375 00:19:11,690 --> 00:19:07,679 um one of the things that would have 376 00:19:14,750 --> 00:19:11,700 changed I think um Ed teller's and uh 377 00:19:17,210 --> 00:19:14,760 Enrico uh fermi's conversation 378 00:19:20,029 --> 00:19:17,220 is 379 00:19:21,350 --> 00:19:20,039 things like the Tic Tac 380 00:19:23,870 --> 00:19:21,360 all right 381 00:19:25,549 --> 00:19:23,880 and what I mean by that is Von Neumann 382 00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:25,559 uh talked about 383 00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:30,840 uh these self-replicating uh spaceships 384 00:19:38,029 --> 00:19:33,440 space probe Starships 385 00:19:43,150 --> 00:19:38,039 and that uh the the best way 386 00:19:47,330 --> 00:19:43,160 to go and possibly colonize or 387 00:19:49,610 --> 00:19:47,340 uh grab Knowledge from around the Milky 388 00:19:51,529 --> 00:19:49,620 Way and beyond that into other galaxies 389 00:19:55,070 --> 00:19:51,539 in the universe 390 00:19:57,049 --> 00:19:55,080 um by Mining and and building and you 391 00:19:59,150 --> 00:19:57,059 would have a a mother craft you would 392 00:20:01,070 --> 00:19:59,160 have these self-replicating spacecraft 393 00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:01,080 and 394 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:05,760 exponential growth 395 00:20:12,350 --> 00:20:08,220 right that this would just blister out 396 00:20:14,510 --> 00:20:12,360 and very quickly uh because of the way 397 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:14,520 that they would replicate and tap into 398 00:20:19,490 --> 00:20:17,400 asteroids and planets and and and build 399 00:20:22,029 --> 00:20:19,500 more of themselves 400 00:20:25,310 --> 00:20:22,039 um that uh an advanced civilization 401 00:20:27,230 --> 00:20:25,320 would uh take over the Milky Way in in 402 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:27,240 very short order I'm talking about the 403 00:20:31,370 --> 00:20:28,860 Milky Way 404 00:20:33,950 --> 00:20:31,380 and in theory a self-replicating 405 00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:33,960 spacecraft you know could be sent to a 406 00:20:39,950 --> 00:20:37,679 neighboring planetary system where it 407 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:39,960 would gather raw materials 408 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:42,000 um you know from asteroids moons and gas 409 00:20:49,310 --> 00:20:44,480 giants Etc too 410 00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:49,320 to constantly create replicas of itself 411 00:20:54,049 --> 00:20:51,600 and and this would be ongoing and these 412 00:20:57,169 --> 00:20:54,059 replicas will be sent out again to other 413 00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:57,179 planetary systems uh the original Parent 414 00:21:02,350 --> 00:20:59,760 probe could then pursue its primary 415 00:21:04,669 --> 00:21:02,360 purpose within the star system 416 00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:04,679 and uh they would have different 417 00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:06,720 missions apply to each one of these 418 00:21:11,690 --> 00:21:09,360 depending on what was being built maybe 419 00:21:14,090 --> 00:21:11,700 some are looking for water maybe some 420 00:21:18,169 --> 00:21:14,100 are looking for Life maybe some are you 421 00:21:21,770 --> 00:21:18,179 know studying DNA maybe uh looking for 422 00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:21,780 precious materials and raw materials and 423 00:21:26,690 --> 00:21:23,760 and and so forth 424 00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:26,700 and so this would continue and then you 425 00:21:31,970 --> 00:21:30,240 would have uh this next advancement of 426 00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:31,980 this which I think is another 427 00:21:38,810 --> 00:21:34,260 possibility here 428 00:21:40,130 --> 00:21:38,820 um which maybe some of these Von Neumann 429 00:21:43,970 --> 00:21:40,140 probes 430 00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:43,980 would carry say the seeds of life 431 00:21:48,649 --> 00:21:45,780 you know DNA 432 00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:48,659 maybe they store genetic patterns of of 433 00:21:55,330 --> 00:21:52,320 life forms their own life forms and from 434 00:21:59,210 --> 00:21:55,340 you know from their home world right and 435 00:22:01,730 --> 00:21:59,220 uh and and finding a habitable planet 436 00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:01,740 like Earth for instance 437 00:22:05,750 --> 00:22:03,120 boom 438 00:22:08,750 --> 00:22:05,760 right and and the seeds of life and then 439 00:22:10,970 --> 00:22:08,760 we continue out uh that way now is that 440 00:22:16,370 --> 00:22:10,980 a possibility for Earth absolutely it is 441 00:22:19,070 --> 00:22:16,380 and when we look at uh uh Earth itself 442 00:22:24,010 --> 00:22:19,080 and we look at the Historical 443 00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:24,020 uh parts of uh sightings over the years 444 00:22:30,110 --> 00:22:28,320 which not only go back Millennia but if 445 00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:30,120 we take 446 00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:34,799 um some of the text in in India or Iraq 447 00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:39,360 or Egypt uh certainly China and and 448 00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:43,919 Japan and uh even uh North Central South 449 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:47,280 America and we look at the way that 450 00:22:53,090 --> 00:22:50,580 history has treated the subject it seems 451 00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:53,100 that these cultures around the world 452 00:22:57,470 --> 00:22:55,740 historically speaking talk about star 453 00:22:58,730 --> 00:22:57,480 beings you know talk about the heavens 454 00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,740 talk about the knowledge talking about 455 00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,200 things coming from the heavens and 456 00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:03,360 certainly talk about crafting machines 457 00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:05,340 and and so forth 458 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:08,480 um that all the way through to today 459 00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:12,000 with the sightings that we have that are 460 00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:13,820 that are going on right now as I speak 461 00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:19,020 that it is this the Von Neumann concert 462 00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:22,799 except van Newman Neumann Newman 463 00:23:29,210 --> 00:23:25,260 the vi Newman concept 464 00:23:32,090 --> 00:23:29,220 and I suggest that it may be and the 465 00:23:35,630 --> 00:23:32,100 other reason why this is such an 466 00:23:39,230 --> 00:23:35,640 important subject today versus where 467 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,240 Enrico Fermi was with Ed teller sitting 468 00:23:45,529 --> 00:23:41,520 at that table in 1950 in the cafeteria 469 00:23:49,130 --> 00:23:45,539 they had no idea how quickly we would 470 00:23:52,190 --> 00:23:49,140 not only be on the moon that eight years 471 00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:52,200 later after that conversation in 1950 472 00:23:59,630 --> 00:23:56,159 1958 Sputnik 57 Sputnik Telstar the 473 00:24:03,770 --> 00:23:59,640 United States Russia the space race and 474 00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:03,780 uh how quickly we went and sent probes 475 00:24:08,149 --> 00:24:05,580 to the Moon before we sent man to the 476 00:24:11,289 --> 00:24:08,159 Moon we sent probes to the Moon uh how 477 00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:11,299 quickly we sent stuff to Mars 478 00:24:18,409 --> 00:24:15,960 and uh very quickly in the 1970s we had 479 00:24:20,390 --> 00:24:18,419 Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 and Pioneer 10 480 00:24:22,850 --> 00:24:20,400 and Pioneer 11. 481 00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:22,860 um sending them outside to an 482 00:24:28,370 --> 00:24:25,260 Interstellar situation outside 483 00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:28,380 of our solar system and if that's what 484 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:31,679 we are doing surveyor and and everything 485 00:24:38,750 --> 00:24:34,740 else if that's what we were doing 486 00:24:40,370 --> 00:24:38,760 isn't that exactly what uh Von Von 487 00:24:44,690 --> 00:24:40,380 Newman was talking about 488 00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,700 and is is that what is happening now 489 00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:46,559 here today 490 00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:48,000 all right 491 00:24:53,649 --> 00:24:52,080 so if we look at uh start to pick all of 492 00:24:56,570 --> 00:24:53,659 this apart 493 00:24:59,450 --> 00:24:56,580 and and and look at the considerations 494 00:25:01,250 --> 00:24:59,460 of these different filters and the way 495 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:01,260 to 496 00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:06,480 about where is everybody 497 00:25:12,770 --> 00:25:10,200 um it uh it's a different con text over 498 00:25:15,529 --> 00:25:12,780 the last four years but when we look at 499 00:25:20,630 --> 00:25:15,539 the the number one 500 00:25:22,610 --> 00:25:20,640 answer I think that applies directly to 501 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,620 the Fermi paradox 502 00:25:28,010 --> 00:25:24,960 is that 503 00:25:30,049 --> 00:25:28,020 alien life is already here 504 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:30,059 Enrico 505 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,440 it's already here it's been here it's 506 00:25:36,529 --> 00:25:33,360 been here for a long time maybe we 507 00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:36,539 ourselves are alien and E.T 508 00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:38,340 and and 509 00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:40,860 that that that's it that's the the 510 00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:44,640 overall but I think that 511 00:25:50,990 --> 00:25:48,000 um I think that's the easiest most 512 00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:51,000 accepted answer from everybody 513 00:25:55,850 --> 00:25:53,700 that what do you mean no no uh et's 514 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:55,860 already here it's bad they've been here 515 00:26:00,890 --> 00:25:58,559 and they are visiting here now I think 516 00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:00,900 that that is overall we look at the 517 00:26:07,789 --> 00:26:02,820 recent polls 518 00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:07,799 um it's a 30 35 of Americans uh believe 519 00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:10,799 uh ET is here and is visiting this 520 00:26:16,970 --> 00:26:13,500 planet the number's a little lower over 521 00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:16,980 in Europe uh just under 30 percent 522 00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:20,340 and uh but that's a huge that's a huge 523 00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:21,600 part of the population 524 00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,320 so that is that is the one generally 525 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:27,600 accepted answer 526 00:26:32,930 --> 00:26:30,720 um that that just negates and answers 527 00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:32,940 the question right uh where is everybody 528 00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:36,600 well uh everybody is already here now 529 00:26:44,810 --> 00:26:40,559 what part of this is acknowledged 530 00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:44,820 right because we have to look at that a 531 00:26:47,810 --> 00:26:46,740 couple of different ways just right 532 00:26:56,510 --> 00:26:47,820 there 533 00:26:57,890 --> 00:26:56,520 that ET is here well I I would say 534 00:27:03,830 --> 00:26:57,900 no 535 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:03,840 that even the members of this community 536 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:07,200 want where they want disclosure and and 537 00:27:11,149 --> 00:27:09,120 they want uh the governments in the 538 00:27:14,510 --> 00:27:11,159 military to step forward say ET is here 539 00:27:16,310 --> 00:27:14,520 they they need that right well that's 540 00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:16,320 what the rest of the world needs too as 541 00:27:22,850 --> 00:27:19,919 well so is there an acknowledged part of 542 00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,860 this and and we're getting close I mean 543 00:27:28,430 --> 00:27:25,200 because of the conversations that we are 544 00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:28,440 having today and the number of planets 545 00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:31,620 and the number of sightings and and the 546 00:27:36,049 --> 00:27:33,600 basic math and the size of the universe 547 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:36,059 and the size of the Milky Way that we 548 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:38,400 know that there is that that's it that 549 00:27:41,769 --> 00:27:40,320 the universe is teeming with life we 550 00:27:47,149 --> 00:27:41,779 know that 551 00:27:50,810 --> 00:27:47,159 but is there the definitive side 552 00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:50,820 okay so if we back this up 553 00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:53,159 my own sighting which I'm not going to 554 00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:57,240 go into I've had many but just the beer 555 00:28:04,250 --> 00:28:01,440 can alone for me is the same type of 556 00:28:06,409 --> 00:28:04,260 sighting that millions of people have 557 00:28:09,289 --> 00:28:06,419 had Millions 558 00:28:10,190 --> 00:28:09,299 I don't have it on film I know what I 559 00:28:12,169 --> 00:28:10,200 saw 560 00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:12,179 now 561 00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:23,700 idea what I saw 562 00:28:28,570 --> 00:28:26,820 and that goes with I don't have those 563 00:28:31,250 --> 00:28:28,580 answers I'm looking for those answers 564 00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:31,260 and everybody else 565 00:28:39,649 --> 00:28:35,820 is in the same position right now 566 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,659 unless you are in the know where it can 567 00:28:44,450 --> 00:28:41,520 be acknowledged 568 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,460 right so that's where we are what is 569 00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:46,799 acknowledged and what is unacknowledged 570 00:28:51,890 --> 00:28:51,120 and and where is the real proof for the 571 00:28:54,590 --> 00:28:51,900 world 572 00:28:57,890 --> 00:28:54,600 now the Insiders and and the the 573 00:29:00,830 --> 00:28:57,900 projects that are going on and and crash 574 00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:00,840 to retrievals and you know alien bodies 575 00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:03,960 and living aliens and dead aliens I I 576 00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:07,799 don't know about any of that nobody does 577 00:29:12,529 --> 00:29:10,440 all right that's where we are but I 578 00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:12,539 think in a general sense 579 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,600 that question has been answered that we 580 00:29:21,169 --> 00:29:17,600 um are being visited every day 581 00:29:22,909 --> 00:29:21,179 uh we continue we will continue to be 582 00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:22,919 visited there's stuff going on in our 583 00:29:27,409 --> 00:29:26,159 skies and historically cultures around 584 00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:27,419 the world 585 00:29:33,470 --> 00:29:30,720 have talked about it have seen it 586 00:29:36,049 --> 00:29:33,480 all right now 587 00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:36,059 the next stage 588 00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:39,840 if we go from alien life is already here 589 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:42,240 right it's already here that's the 590 00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:43,440 answer to it 591 00:29:48,130 --> 00:29:46,080 and then we go to the Other Extreme 592 00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:48,140 which is 593 00:29:54,049 --> 00:29:52,080 where it was until recently that 594 00:29:55,970 --> 00:29:54,059 extraterrestrial life 595 00:29:57,769 --> 00:29:55,980 is rare 596 00:30:00,769 --> 00:29:57,779 or non-existent 597 00:30:06,649 --> 00:30:00,779 now I have listened to physicists 598 00:30:09,950 --> 00:30:07,970 I'd say 599 00:30:12,409 --> 00:30:09,960 there's a good chance 600 00:30:13,909 --> 00:30:12,419 that we are all there is 601 00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:13,919 that life 602 00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:17,159 is so rare and so special and the 603 00:30:22,450 --> 00:30:18,480 circumstances 604 00:30:26,330 --> 00:30:22,460 uh behind how we got here with the moon 605 00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:26,340 and our distance from the Sun 606 00:30:31,789 --> 00:30:28,620 and and water and how everything 607 00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:31,799 happened that to replicate this 608 00:30:38,210 --> 00:30:36,240 is the rarest of the rarest thing and we 609 00:30:41,690 --> 00:30:38,220 may be all the risk 610 00:30:44,330 --> 00:30:41,700 and when I hear that 611 00:30:46,669 --> 00:30:44,340 right that extra trust your life is rare 612 00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:46,679 or non-existent 613 00:30:53,470 --> 00:30:50,940 now this uh it makes me angry 614 00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:53,480 but it's not my opinion that matters 615 00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:57,840 these are scientific Minds very smart 616 00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:00,480 physicists and phds and astrophysicists 617 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:03,600 and astronomers that that carry this 618 00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:05,760 mindset 619 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:08,399 I think it's shrinking 620 00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:12,480 but now I heard it in uh uh I heard it 621 00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:14,880 in a conference 622 00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:17,120 um a live presentation 623 00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:22,260 uh a big deal conference four months ago 624 00:31:27,649 --> 00:31:26,700 I also saw it uh these comments like 625 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:27,659 this 626 00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:29,760 on TV series 627 00:31:39,049 --> 00:31:32,940 TV series so yeah 628 00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:39,059 and then if we uh take it 629 00:31:47,570 --> 00:31:41,279 to another extreme 630 00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:49,549 life is rare 631 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,799 but then there's intelligence 632 00:31:57,769 --> 00:31:54,960 so let's say 633 00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,779 life is not that rare 634 00:32:03,169 --> 00:32:00,240 there is life out there 635 00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:03,179 but what do we call life 636 00:32:14,510 --> 00:32:10,730 right 637 00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:14,520 what how rare is extraterrestrial 638 00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:21,769 all right now that it uh it could be as 639 00:32:28,430 --> 00:32:24,600 simple as 640 00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,440 foreign they're working with fire now if 641 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:30,720 if you fire is an important thing 642 00:32:38,510 --> 00:32:34,559 because let's say the oceans on your 643 00:32:40,610 --> 00:32:38,520 Europa right there may be life in those 644 00:32:42,049 --> 00:32:40,620 oceans right 645 00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:42,059 thanks 646 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:45,120 things swimming around but without fire 647 00:32:50,570 --> 00:32:48,000 you're not going to move on to uh an 648 00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:50,580 industrial complex you're not going to 649 00:32:56,169 --> 00:32:53,520 be building things so but if you are 650 00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:56,179 above ground on terra firma 651 00:33:05,389 --> 00:33:01,679 and your your species gets as far as 652 00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:05,399 fire you will be dealing with the 653 00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:07,679 internet here very soon it didn't take 654 00:33:13,730 --> 00:33:09,000 us very long 655 00:33:16,370 --> 00:33:13,740 and uh and and exploring the universe 656 00:33:19,690 --> 00:33:16,380 and the Galaxy that you're in so 657 00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:19,700 extraterrestrial intelligence 658 00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:23,580 Beyond you know living in water 659 00:33:29,210 --> 00:33:26,640 Dolphins right very smart creatures but 660 00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:29,220 there's no fire there for dolphins 661 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:31,980 but if you are above ground and and you 662 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,320 have fire that's extraterrestrial 663 00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:36,480 intelligence and they're saying that 664 00:33:45,289 --> 00:33:41,039 well that may be even rarer still or 665 00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:47,930 another filter 666 00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:51,120 for the Fermi paradox 667 00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:55,919 is that there is a periodic Extinction 668 00:34:00,350 --> 00:33:58,559 natural events 669 00:34:01,549 --> 00:34:00,360 asteroid 670 00:34:04,549 --> 00:34:01,559 right 671 00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:04,559 struck by a comment 672 00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:06,840 solar flare 673 00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:10,560 your star burps something acts up 674 00:34:16,070 --> 00:34:13,020 and incinerate your planet something 675 00:34:17,869 --> 00:34:16,080 that is is is something that you didn't 676 00:34:24,109 --> 00:34:17,879 cause 677 00:34:29,930 --> 00:34:24,119 now uh uh any Star freaking out 678 00:34:34,070 --> 00:34:29,940 and and changing it's if we had 679 00:34:38,089 --> 00:34:34,080 um anything uh Within 680 00:34:41,149 --> 00:34:38,099 50 light years of planet Earth and a 681 00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:41,159 star one Supernova we're done 682 00:34:44,810 --> 00:34:43,800 as far away as that would be we would be 683 00:34:47,930 --> 00:34:44,820 done 684 00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:47,940 so you know supernovas that that are 685 00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:50,040 happening around the universe and we see 686 00:34:54,829 --> 00:34:51,960 them all the time and we measure things 687 00:34:58,010 --> 00:34:54,839 with that distances and things we can 688 00:34:59,230 --> 00:34:58,020 navigate the universe by supernovas 689 00:35:03,589 --> 00:34:59,240 um 690 00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:03,599 the the idea of that and what is 691 00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:06,180 devastated around it and how it affects 692 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:09,680 vast amounts of space in the universe 693 00:35:15,550 --> 00:35:12,720 that's a natural event it doesn't have 694 00:35:20,510 --> 00:35:15,560 to be the planet it doesn't have to be 695 00:35:23,930 --> 00:35:20,520 uh tsunamis or whatever or even a local 696 00:35:25,730 --> 00:35:23,940 solar storm or an asteroid it could be 697 00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:25,740 something else like a supernova wiping 698 00:35:30,589 --> 00:35:27,720 out big chunks of the universe but that 699 00:35:34,069 --> 00:35:30,599 would be a natural event 700 00:35:36,109 --> 00:35:34,079 so even if you got a chance to to 701 00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:36,119 advance there could be something out of 702 00:35:46,370 --> 00:35:37,680 your control and that could happen to 703 00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:50,510 then you have this the intelligent alien 704 00:35:54,349 --> 00:35:52,680 species out there 705 00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:54,359 have not 706 00:36:00,370 --> 00:35:57,180 developed Advanced Technologies maybe 707 00:36:04,010 --> 00:36:00,380 there is something there that is just 708 00:36:06,589 --> 00:36:04,020 stopping the creative process there's 709 00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:06,599 just something wrong in the DNA there's 710 00:36:11,690 --> 00:36:09,060 something wrong with the brain there's 711 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:11,700 that they they are just going to stay 712 00:36:18,050 --> 00:36:15,660 where they are and if we if we back up 713 00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:18,060 you know 100 million years and and we 714 00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:20,760 look at uh planet Earth and we had uh we 715 00:36:26,089 --> 00:36:23,280 had life here but it was dinosaurs 716 00:36:31,609 --> 00:36:26,099 you know and and if 717 00:36:33,829 --> 00:36:31,619 if that asteroid hadn't struck Earth 65 718 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:33,839 million years ago 719 00:36:39,790 --> 00:36:37,680 does that mean the dinosaur would the 720 00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:39,800 dinosaurs over that 65 million years 721 00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,660 have developed Advanced Technologies 722 00:36:47,870 --> 00:36:45,119 would they be building radio telescopes 723 00:36:49,370 --> 00:36:47,880 today would they have a company like 724 00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:49,380 SpaceX 725 00:36:57,410 --> 00:36:53,520 you know that that that's so how 726 00:37:03,670 --> 00:36:57,420 uh an intelligent species like again the 727 00:37:07,310 --> 00:37:03,680 octopus or or or Dolphins dogs cats 728 00:37:09,950 --> 00:37:07,320 monkeys Apes right is that an 729 00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:09,960 intelligent species or or how do we look 730 00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:13,020 at that and what does an intelligent 731 00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:15,300 species do if left alone 732 00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:19,320 for vast time would they develop 733 00:37:24,170 --> 00:37:21,839 Advanced Technologies that's another 734 00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:24,180 part of of this entire thing and the 735 00:37:29,450 --> 00:37:27,000 reason why that's so important 736 00:37:31,490 --> 00:37:29,460 is that chemistry is chemistry 737 00:37:32,690 --> 00:37:31,500 particles are particles 738 00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:32,700 right 739 00:37:37,790 --> 00:37:35,640 and they are only going to combine so 740 00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:37,800 many ways and I talk about that a lot 741 00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:41,220 but it's an important subject to address 742 00:37:46,849 --> 00:37:45,119 in that life in amino acids and DNA it's 743 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:46,859 got to be everywhere how much of it is 744 00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:49,260 like us that develops like us probably a 745 00:37:53,630 --> 00:37:49,980 lot 746 00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:53,640 but that doesn't mean that that animal 747 00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:55,200 species 748 00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:56,640 are sentient 749 00:38:04,130 --> 00:38:01,440 but they don't have what it takes to 750 00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:04,140 eventually develop Advanced Technologies 751 00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:07,380 so how many planets out there have fish 752 00:38:12,109 --> 00:38:10,320 have have have life but that's as far as 753 00:38:16,430 --> 00:38:12,119 they they have trees they have grass 754 00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:16,440 right and and how far is it going to go 755 00:38:20,690 --> 00:38:19,020 that's an important part of this 756 00:38:24,349 --> 00:38:20,700 and then 757 00:38:27,170 --> 00:38:24,359 the next filter and I've gotten many uh 758 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:31,370 is that is it the nature 759 00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:33,540 of us 760 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:41,030 we seem to be doing a good job of that 761 00:38:46,730 --> 00:38:42,960 and I know that 762 00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:46,740 um uh many of us picture 763 00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:49,280 Earth 764 00:38:53,210 --> 00:38:51,660 500 million years from now and how 765 00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:53,220 advanced and beautiful we're going to be 766 00:38:59,390 --> 00:38:57,060 and and and how many dimensions we are 767 00:39:03,050 --> 00:38:59,400 going to move into and we're going to be 768 00:39:08,170 --> 00:39:03,060 intelligent beings of of light and and 769 00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:08,180 stuff right okay to get to that point 770 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:12,000 we can't destroy ourselves is it our 771 00:39:19,490 --> 00:39:14,760 nature to do that to burn up natural 772 00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:19,500 resources to overpopulate the planet and 773 00:39:23,870 --> 00:39:22,320 and and just run out of things and the 774 00:39:27,730 --> 00:39:23,880 next thing you know 775 00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:27,740 right that we just or War 776 00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:30,240 whatever it may be 777 00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:33,359 right create another disease 778 00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:36,900 that escapes a laboratory anything like 779 00:39:44,030 --> 00:39:40,500 that we're smart and then we create 780 00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:44,040 something that eventually destroys us 781 00:39:51,710 --> 00:39:47,700 is it is it that our nature to do that 782 00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:51,720 one of the things that I I see humans 783 00:39:57,370 --> 00:39:54,960 uh the evidence of this is that no 784 00:40:01,250 --> 00:39:57,380 matter what we take over piece of land 785 00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:01,260 and we build a city till it's you know a 786 00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:03,960 town into a city and we just just 787 00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:05,880 overtake everything 788 00:40:09,710 --> 00:40:08,160 says overtake overtake overtake overtake 789 00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:09,720 overtake overtake 790 00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:12,240 right and we just burn everything out 791 00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:13,980 and up and down 792 00:40:20,329 --> 00:40:16,560 including ourselves so is it just our 793 00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:23,630 now the other part 794 00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:26,400 there's a yin and yang 795 00:40:31,790 --> 00:40:28,980 is it the nature 796 00:40:34,490 --> 00:40:31,800 of intelligent life 797 00:40:36,410 --> 00:40:34,500 to destroy others 798 00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:36,420 uh stop right there and think about that 799 00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:37,740 for a second 800 00:40:45,230 --> 00:40:42,599 we certainly don't have any issues 801 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:45,240 starting Wars 802 00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,240 you know and destruction 803 00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:50,160 Enrico Fermi 804 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:53,760 teller right Oppenheimer 805 00:41:03,829 --> 00:40:59,690 atomic bombs 806 00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:03,839 and it's uh and and built for a purpose 807 00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:06,660 and built for a reason right and and 808 00:41:13,790 --> 00:41:09,359 tested not even knowing 809 00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:13,800 if it was there were physicists 810 00:41:19,550 --> 00:41:16,560 that feared 811 00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:19,560 that that first atomic test 812 00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:21,839 would cause a chain reaction in the 813 00:41:25,849 --> 00:41:24,060 atmosphere 814 00:41:28,490 --> 00:41:25,859 that we couldn't stop in planet Earth 815 00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:28,500 will blow up that was actually a 816 00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:34,310 so 817 00:41:40,730 --> 00:41:36,720 is it the nature of us 818 00:41:45,530 --> 00:41:43,970 yeah so with other civilizations out 819 00:41:52,250 --> 00:41:45,540 there 820 00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:52,260 good-natured I want to uh to be nice and 821 00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:53,760 be kind 822 00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:56,940 you know and and and and not be evasive 823 00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:00,480 and invasive and and and Conquer and 824 00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:08,890 but there are probably 825 00:42:14,569 --> 00:42:12,119 intelligent civilizations out there that 826 00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:14,579 don't have good intentions 827 00:42:20,329 --> 00:42:16,680 and that may be part of the reason why 828 00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:20,339 we're not making friends with anybody 829 00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:24,119 at least out in the open 830 00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:27,300 because those that want to do that are 831 00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:29,880 being destroyed by another civilization 832 00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:38,089 then we have this 833 00:42:41,390 --> 00:42:39,890 when we talk about contact when we talk 834 00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:41,400 about seti 835 00:42:49,010 --> 00:42:45,119 and we talk about where we are today 836 00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:50,829 only broadcast 837 00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,400 detectable signals for a brief period of 838 00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:54,720 time 839 00:43:00,250 --> 00:42:57,660 because that's exactly what we've gone 840 00:43:05,210 --> 00:43:03,170 we here on Earth 841 00:43:08,030 --> 00:43:05,220 have only broadcast we talk about the 842 00:43:10,970 --> 00:43:08,040 movie contact it's a very important uh 843 00:43:13,130 --> 00:43:10,980 point to bring up we have only been 844 00:43:15,950 --> 00:43:13,140 Broadcasting 845 00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:15,960 here on Earth for about 150 years 846 00:43:22,089 --> 00:43:18,540 go back to 1880. 847 00:43:25,010 --> 00:43:22,099 Marconi radio signals Tesla 848 00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:25,020 and that was actually some of the 849 00:43:30,349 --> 00:43:26,880 biggest stuff and then what what 850 00:43:34,609 --> 00:43:30,359 happened in 1910 1920 1930 radio radio 851 00:43:36,109 --> 00:43:34,619 towers uh broadcasting huge amounts of 852 00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:36,119 Watts 853 00:43:43,809 --> 00:43:39,599 that that were blasting out into space 854 00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:43,819 so there's that and then slowly 855 00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:49,740 1970 comes around uh 1975 cable TV uh 856 00:43:55,849 --> 00:43:53,040 satellite signals uh broadcasting and 857 00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:55,859 instead of these huge antennas 858 00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:00,480 now we've got cable carrying TV signals 859 00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:05,280 and today radio signals are very weak 860 00:44:11,390 --> 00:44:08,640 here we are in 2022 what is being 861 00:44:12,609 --> 00:44:11,400 broadcast off of this planet now ah not 862 00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:12,619 much 863 00:44:17,809 --> 00:44:15,960 and eventually it is all going to be 864 00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:17,819 Optical 865 00:44:22,849 --> 00:44:20,520 yeah you know and that's just the way 866 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:22,859 that it is we're receiving our you're 867 00:44:30,410 --> 00:44:26,400 you're watching me right now on on a 868 00:44:32,210 --> 00:44:30,420 cable on a wire on the internet Wi-Fi is 869 00:44:34,730 --> 00:44:32,220 not reaching out into space it barely 870 00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:34,740 goes from room to room in your house 871 00:44:44,270 --> 00:44:39,359 so that's a 150 year window 872 00:44:46,490 --> 00:44:44,280 that's it 150 years so going out into 873 00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:46,500 space somebody would have to be 874 00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,560 listening and have the ability to listen 875 00:44:54,050 --> 00:44:51,599 to look for that 876 00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,060 over 150-year period anything before 877 00:45:00,349 --> 00:44:56,400 anything after they're going to miss it 878 00:45:03,710 --> 00:45:00,359 and we are in the the same position 879 00:45:05,930 --> 00:45:03,720 so we would have to be listening 880 00:45:09,890 --> 00:45:05,940 at the right moment at the right time 881 00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:09,900 from a star that is 50 million light 882 00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:14,160 years away 50 million so 50 million 883 00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:17,280 years it takes for those signals to get 884 00:45:22,250 --> 00:45:18,000 here 885 00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:22,260 and and it's just a 150 year pocket of 886 00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:26,520 information coming across the Milky Way 887 00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:28,380 let alone the universe 888 00:45:32,569 --> 00:45:30,420 so we would have to be listening at that 889 00:45:36,770 --> 00:45:32,579 exact time and if we're not or if it 890 00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:39,290 so that's it and and the reason why that 891 00:45:43,849 --> 00:45:41,760 is such an obvious thing is that's the 892 00:45:46,970 --> 00:45:43,859 way we are doing it here 893 00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:46,980 so yeah seti is important 894 00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:48,839 and it does need to be looking at 895 00:45:54,230 --> 00:45:51,540 certain things I think that web uh doing 896 00:45:55,790 --> 00:45:54,240 what it's doing will tell seti this 897 00:45:58,609 --> 00:45:55,800 planet looks interesting let's let's 898 00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:58,619 focus over here and then we move all the 899 00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:01,440 radio antennas over and and point it at 900 00:46:07,309 --> 00:46:03,660 a specific Tsar system and maybe we can 901 00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:07,319 get lucky and pick up that pocket of 150 902 00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:10,880 years of information in a 50 million 903 00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:13,740 light-year stream 904 00:46:20,270 --> 00:46:17,280 but yeah but that's where we are and so 905 00:46:23,569 --> 00:46:20,280 when we look at the movie contact 906 00:46:27,470 --> 00:46:23,579 UM and that was Vega 907 00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:27,480 that was 1937 that was the uh 1936 or 908 00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:29,460 whatever the Olympic Games that was 909 00:46:34,370 --> 00:46:32,400 broadcast one of the first uh uh 910 00:46:36,410 --> 00:46:34,380 television broadcast that went out and 911 00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:36,420 that went out and and then turned around 912 00:46:44,030 --> 00:46:39,480 and got sent back to us that concept is 913 00:46:45,890 --> 00:46:44,040 accurate that idea is accurate but it 914 00:46:48,530 --> 00:46:45,900 only worked and especially for the movie 915 00:46:49,370 --> 00:46:48,540 contact because Vega is not that far 916 00:46:50,990 --> 00:46:49,380 away 917 00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:51,000 right okay 918 00:46:55,730 --> 00:46:52,560 so there's that 919 00:46:59,210 --> 00:46:55,740 and then what if the signals that are 920 00:47:04,130 --> 00:47:02,390 are just too alien 921 00:47:06,109 --> 00:47:04,140 that we don't know what we're looking 922 00:47:09,470 --> 00:47:06,119 for 923 00:47:12,589 --> 00:47:09,480 so there may be tons of Life out there 924 00:47:14,630 --> 00:47:12,599 and they may be broadcasting but it's 925 00:47:16,970 --> 00:47:14,640 something that we can't see or we can't 926 00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,980 pick up we look at oh it's got to be the 927 00:47:21,710 --> 00:47:18,960 frequency of hydrogen that would be yeah 928 00:47:24,829 --> 00:47:21,720 okay all right all right and that uh E.T 929 00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,839 if he's smart uh they they know to 930 00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:26,880 broadcast on these certain frequencies 931 00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:29,520 and it's a universal thing and and okay 932 00:47:35,870 --> 00:47:34,020 all right that's fine but that broadcast 933 00:47:40,910 --> 00:47:35,880 um uh would have to be in the same time 934 00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:40,920 scale it would have to be uh in in 935 00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:43,920 something that can be received by us 936 00:47:51,290 --> 00:47:47,220 that was one of the biggest uh mistakes 937 00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:53,630 was that that was a TV carrier signal 938 00:48:00,050 --> 00:47:55,859 and that they buried the secondary 939 00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,060 signal alongside the carrier signal 940 00:48:05,329 --> 00:48:02,160 um E.T would have to understand what 941 00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:05,339 that is to unscramble it and see it 942 00:48:11,870 --> 00:48:08,520 right okay now were they just trading 943 00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:11,880 signals here's the thing 944 00:48:17,210 --> 00:48:14,280 when we talk about alphabets 945 00:48:20,089 --> 00:48:17,220 and languages and and something that is 946 00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:20,099 being sent back and forth they may be 947 00:48:23,630 --> 00:48:22,079 sending something that they think we 948 00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:23,640 should understand 949 00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:26,460 but we don't and we don't even see it 950 00:48:32,809 --> 00:48:30,000 it's so alien to us that we don't even 951 00:48:34,670 --> 00:48:32,819 know that it's there and it could be 952 00:48:37,069 --> 00:48:34,680 going on all over the place same thing 953 00:48:38,329 --> 00:48:37,079 with us going in the other direction you 954 00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:38,339 would have to understand what you're 955 00:48:41,750 --> 00:48:39,720 seeing 956 00:48:45,470 --> 00:48:41,760 um what you're hearing and what you are 957 00:48:46,849 --> 00:48:45,480 going for just to unscramble it and to 958 00:48:49,490 --> 00:48:46,859 know 959 00:48:51,530 --> 00:48:49,500 so maybe it's just something that we 960 00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,540 don't understand we don't see it's in a 961 00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:53,520 frequency we don't get it's in the color 962 00:48:58,190 --> 00:48:56,280 we don't get it's in a time scale maybe 963 00:48:59,809 --> 00:48:58,200 they are just in a different 964 00:49:03,470 --> 00:48:59,819 time 965 00:49:09,470 --> 00:49:05,630 something to think about 966 00:49:11,450 --> 00:49:09,480 now here's the other part uh moving on 967 00:49:14,329 --> 00:49:11,460 Maybe 968 00:49:16,930 --> 00:49:14,339 you know where is everybody maybe the 969 00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:16,940 thought of Von Neumann and and 970 00:49:24,050 --> 00:49:20,220 colonizing the Milky Way and and 971 00:49:28,569 --> 00:49:24,060 occupying other star system Maybe 972 00:49:36,250 --> 00:49:32,690 just maybe now we haven't gotten off of 973 00:49:39,950 --> 00:49:36,260 this planet to go Interstellar we're not 974 00:49:42,470 --> 00:49:39,960 colonizing uh another star system we're 975 00:49:44,809 --> 00:49:42,480 trying to get to Mars we've barely got 976 00:49:47,329 --> 00:49:44,819 to the moon so we're not at that stage 977 00:49:48,890 --> 00:49:47,339 so maybe it's just not the norm even 978 00:49:51,650 --> 00:49:48,900 though we have the technology to 979 00:49:53,630 --> 00:49:51,660 broadcast in the sea and and and to go 980 00:49:55,490 --> 00:49:53,640 into deep space in the web and we are 981 00:49:58,010 --> 00:49:55,500 building rockets and we have satellites 982 00:50:01,130 --> 00:49:58,020 and we you know pretty you know got a 983 00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:01,140 pretty good grip but that doesn't mean 984 00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:07,910 right and a terraforming and and 985 00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:10,440 figuring all of that out no we're we're 986 00:50:16,910 --> 00:50:13,500 not there so just maybe it's not the 987 00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:16,920 norm and if you go to the other part of 988 00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:19,260 that the other extreme 989 00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:23,220 uh with that is maybe species out there 990 00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:25,920 don't want to colonize maybe they want 991 00:50:36,650 --> 00:50:33,530 yeah 992 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,660 now maybe 993 00:50:43,309 --> 00:50:38,880 alien species 994 00:50:49,609 --> 00:50:47,030 right and and they don't have a need to 995 00:50:51,410 --> 00:50:49,619 expand out and they're on the other side 996 00:50:54,049 --> 00:50:51,420 of the Milky Way and they've got a 997 00:50:56,030 --> 00:50:54,059 quarter of it dialed but but that's as 998 00:50:59,049 --> 00:50:56,040 far as they want to go 999 00:51:02,750 --> 00:50:59,059 you know there is a thing about uh uh 1000 00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:02,760 resources and expansion and if you've 1001 00:51:09,530 --> 00:51:06,720 got to you've got to have children to 1002 00:51:12,589 --> 00:51:09,540 expand and and everything else and you 1003 00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:12,599 have to have a rate of expansion to do 1004 00:51:20,030 --> 00:51:16,319 all of that before we talk about 1005 00:51:23,510 --> 00:51:20,040 you know cloning embryos and jars to go 1006 00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:23,520 and populate planets which may be some 1007 00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:27,119 of the ideas out there but just maybe 1008 00:51:30,650 --> 00:51:28,800 they've gone as far as they want to go 1009 00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:30,660 they don't they don't need to go any 1010 00:51:35,150 --> 00:51:32,099 further and it's another part of the 1011 00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:35,160 Milky Way that's another answer here 1012 00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:39,180 you know and and here's another part 1013 00:51:47,210 --> 00:51:43,980 where we are looking at exoplanets but 1014 00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:47,220 but maybe 1015 00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:49,920 they just left those planets 1016 00:51:53,630 --> 00:51:52,380 we're going to leave Earth one day we're 1017 00:51:56,510 --> 00:51:53,640 going to leave Earth 1018 00:51:58,370 --> 00:51:56,520 uh We've discovered another exoplanet 1019 00:52:01,370 --> 00:51:58,380 today I think uh they call it the hell 1020 00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:01,380 planet right it does a 17 and a half 1021 00:52:10,089 --> 00:52:07,520 hour orbit it's year of its sun and uh 1022 00:52:12,349 --> 00:52:10,099 is there life on there no there's not 1023 00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:12,359 eventually that's going to be Earth 1024 00:52:16,250 --> 00:52:13,980 we're not going to be orbiting the Sun 1025 00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,260 in 17 hours but it's going to be a hell 1026 00:52:21,170 --> 00:52:18,720 Planet here and we have to leave before 1027 00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:21,180 then and that's if we survive asteroids 1028 00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:24,480 and diseases and natural disasters and 1029 00:52:31,309 --> 00:52:28,559 and solar storms and and Alien Invasion 1030 00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,319 we have to survive all of that and if we 1031 00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:33,119 get to that point 1032 00:52:38,349 --> 00:52:35,640 we will have to eventually leave this 1033 00:52:41,390 --> 00:52:38,359 planet too and leave it behind because 1034 00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:41,400 uh when when the Sun starts going 1035 00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:42,920 through its changes 1036 00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:45,839 immediately our atmosphere is going to 1037 00:52:52,069 --> 00:52:49,260 burn off and blow away the the uh the 1038 00:52:53,930 --> 00:52:52,079 oceans are going to evaporate uh we're 1039 00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:53,940 going to have just molten lava and 1040 00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,740 volcanoes all over this planet the 1041 00:52:59,150 --> 00:52:57,359 surface temperature is going to be 2000 1042 00:53:00,349 --> 00:52:59,160 degrees we're not going to be here we're 1043 00:53:02,210 --> 00:53:00,359 going to be gone 1044 00:53:04,370 --> 00:53:02,220 so we're looking at all of these 1045 00:53:08,329 --> 00:53:04,380 exoplanets and maybe on a lot of these 1046 00:53:13,450 --> 00:53:12,109 right and uh and if we go to that 1047 00:53:16,849 --> 00:53:13,460 extreme 1048 00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,859 maybe after going through that we may do 1049 00:53:21,290 --> 00:53:18,960 the same thing maybe alien species out 1050 00:53:22,910 --> 00:53:21,300 there are just isolating themselves 1051 00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,920 from the outside world that they they 1052 00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:24,240 had enough 1053 00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:28,559 to go to the mountain and live by 1054 00:53:33,770 --> 00:53:30,720 themselves we do that here 1055 00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:33,780 so just maybe they don't want to reach 1056 00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:36,480 out they don't want to make contact 1057 00:53:42,770 --> 00:53:38,940 think of the movie 1058 00:53:44,750 --> 00:53:42,780 the movie Valerian and the planet moo 1059 00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:44,760 beautiful planet 1060 00:53:50,750 --> 00:53:48,180 amazing just got along with nature very 1061 00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:50,760 very Advanced species 1062 00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:53,040 they weren't on spaceships they weren't 1063 00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:54,480 leaving the planet they didn't they 1064 00:53:57,410 --> 00:53:55,980 didn't care they were keeping to 1065 00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:57,420 themselves 1066 00:54:02,329 --> 00:54:00,000 it just may be that that could be a big 1067 00:54:05,150 --> 00:54:02,339 chunk of the universe too so something 1068 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,290 and 1069 00:54:13,549 --> 00:54:10,370 here's another thing when we talk about 1070 00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:13,559 Dyson Pro uh Dyson spheres before I get 1071 00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,599 to the break I want to uh get this point 1072 00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:17,040 in 1073 00:54:23,690 --> 00:54:20,240 talk about Dyson fear uh Dyson spheres 1074 00:54:29,450 --> 00:54:23,700 and these technical signatures 1075 00:54:31,849 --> 00:54:29,460 well the amount of resources 1076 00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:31,859 on planet Earth 1077 00:54:38,089 --> 00:54:35,040 to build a Starship 1078 00:54:41,930 --> 00:54:38,099 out in space and then and to to head out 1079 00:54:45,650 --> 00:54:41,940 or to build a Dyson Sphere to to tap 1080 00:54:48,589 --> 00:54:45,660 into our sun and and rapper where where 1081 00:54:50,990 --> 00:54:48,599 do where does all of those materials 1082 00:54:55,730 --> 00:54:51,000 come from 1083 00:54:57,770 --> 00:54:55,740 I would say that there's a lack of 1084 00:54:59,390 --> 00:54:57,780 resources for something like that and 1085 00:55:00,770 --> 00:54:59,400 just in Our Stars said well yeah okay 1086 00:55:02,990 --> 00:55:00,780 we've got asteroids we'll go to the 1087 00:55:06,170 --> 00:55:03,000 asteroid belt that's all got to get 1088 00:55:09,170 --> 00:55:06,180 tapped into and it's a large amount 1089 00:55:10,670 --> 00:55:09,180 we we look at uh the asteroid belt we 1090 00:55:14,930 --> 00:55:10,680 would have to 1091 00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,940 uh you know tap into Jupiter 1092 00:55:19,329 --> 00:55:17,280 for everything that's there to go and 1093 00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:19,339 build a Dyson Sphere 1094 00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:21,119 so 1095 00:55:27,470 --> 00:55:23,520 um to look out 1096 00:55:30,049 --> 00:55:27,480 at uh now I'm not trying to Discount the 1097 00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:30,059 possibilities of all of this but when we 1098 00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:34,079 talk about why isn't uh Vin Neumann and 1099 00:55:40,730 --> 00:55:37,920 why uh why why don't we see uh E.T 1100 00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:40,740 taking over uh the Milky Way we should 1101 00:55:46,730 --> 00:55:44,400 see this exponentially just take maybe 1102 00:55:48,650 --> 00:55:46,740 there's just a a lack of resources 1103 00:55:51,609 --> 00:55:48,660 needed to physically spread throughout 1104 00:55:55,930 --> 00:55:51,619 the Galaxy like that and that's another 1105 00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:55,940 I have often wondered and argued about 1106 00:56:02,750 --> 00:55:59,760 just that very point now it sounds good 1107 00:56:05,510 --> 00:56:02,760 on paper and it works in the math and if 1108 00:56:07,730 --> 00:56:05,520 this happens in one uh plus two is three 1109 00:56:10,250 --> 00:56:07,740 and then it's six and then it's 12 and 1110 00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:10,260 the next thing you know in in a hundred 1111 00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:12,300 years they've taken over a million 1112 00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,319 planets no it it it it takes people and 1113 00:56:21,049 --> 00:56:19,440 resources to do all of that so the 1114 00:56:23,049 --> 00:56:21,059 reason why we're not seeing it is 1115 00:56:26,930 --> 00:56:23,059 because maybe 1116 00:56:29,210 --> 00:56:26,940 there isn't the grand ability to 1117 00:56:32,270 --> 00:56:29,220 replicate and tap into all of these 1118 00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,280 resources to get this done is it's a 1119 00:56:35,930 --> 00:56:34,319 physically challenging and logistical 1120 00:56:37,970 --> 00:56:35,940 nightmare 1121 00:56:40,790 --> 00:56:37,980 that's right let's take our break right 1122 00:56:44,809 --> 00:56:40,800 here this is 1123 00:56:48,170 --> 00:56:44,819 my two hour 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01:00:46,609 --> 01:00:43,980 that time there was nothing uh but uh 1210 01:00:48,289 --> 01:00:46,619 UFOs being seen in the skies and it was 1211 01:00:51,410 --> 01:00:48,299 everywhere it was in the media it was 1212 01:00:54,170 --> 01:00:51,420 with the military radio programs movies 1213 01:00:55,730 --> 01:00:54,180 started to come out about this and there 1214 01:00:58,010 --> 01:00:55,740 was a general hysteria around the 1215 01:00:59,930 --> 01:00:58,020 country at that time and so physicists 1216 01:01:01,370 --> 01:00:59,940 are going to do what they do they 1217 01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:01,380 started talking about the size of the 1218 01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:03,720 universe and how many stars were out 1219 01:01:09,770 --> 01:01:06,720 there and and and how many would have 1220 01:01:12,530 --> 01:01:09,780 planets and then if the if the Milky Way 1221 01:01:14,270 --> 01:01:12,540 was so big then we're looking at you 1222 01:01:17,150 --> 01:01:14,280 know potentially millions of 1223 01:01:19,430 --> 01:01:17,160 civilizations and and and that's where 1224 01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:19,440 they took the conversation and and then 1225 01:01:25,490 --> 01:01:21,839 Rico started calculating 1226 01:01:28,010 --> 01:01:25,500 in his in his head and then just blurted 1227 01:01:30,170 --> 01:01:28,020 out well where is everybody then 1228 01:01:34,190 --> 01:01:30,180 if that's the case where is everybody 1229 01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:34,200 and it was said in a context that we 1230 01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:35,160 should 1231 01:01:41,569 --> 01:01:39,359 have made friends right uh that that E.T 1232 01:01:45,710 --> 01:01:41,579 should be visiting us all the time and 1233 01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:45,720 and uh we should have relationships and 1234 01:01:48,650 --> 01:01:47,640 and everything else not seeing stuff in 1235 01:01:52,190 --> 01:01:48,660 the skies 1236 01:01:53,690 --> 01:01:52,200 uh but it it should be different there 1237 01:01:55,549 --> 01:01:53,700 should be a community here an 1238 01:02:00,349 --> 01:01:55,559 Interstellar community so where is 1239 01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:00,359 everybody and that is the Fermi paradox 1240 01:02:05,690 --> 01:02:04,079 for me Paradox has been discussed uh one 1241 01:02:09,049 --> 01:02:05,700 of the things I mean over and over again 1242 01:02:11,569 --> 01:02:09,059 and I love it when two great minds sit 1243 01:02:13,250 --> 01:02:11,579 down and and start talking couple of 1244 01:02:15,829 --> 01:02:13,260 physicists couple of scientists couple 1245 01:02:18,910 --> 01:02:15,839 of philosophers whatever and eventually 1246 01:02:23,210 --> 01:02:18,920 they will swing the conversation around 1247 01:02:24,890 --> 01:02:23,220 uh to the Fermi Paradox because 1248 01:02:29,569 --> 01:02:24,900 um it's a it's a it's a thought 1249 01:02:32,510 --> 01:02:29,579 experiment that is endless 1250 01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:32,520 it's absolutely infinite 1251 01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:36,240 and once you start to 1252 01:02:43,569 --> 01:02:39,240 um uh have an idea and and to get a 1253 01:02:46,609 --> 01:02:43,579 thought out you are thinking about 1254 01:02:49,130 --> 01:02:46,619 one civilization 1255 01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:49,140 right and and just one thing but there 1256 01:02:55,309 --> 01:02:50,700 has to be 1257 01:02:57,289 --> 01:02:55,319 so many different various types of life 1258 01:02:59,930 --> 01:02:57,299 forms out there 1259 01:03:03,770 --> 01:02:59,940 um that live in different frequencies 1260 01:03:07,250 --> 01:03:03,780 and time scales and and uh different 1261 01:03:08,630 --> 01:03:07,260 ideas of the way that they want to live 1262 01:03:10,910 --> 01:03:08,640 life 1263 01:03:13,130 --> 01:03:10,920 um it varies so much that the Fermi 1264 01:03:15,890 --> 01:03:13,140 Paradox then just expands and expands 1265 01:03:17,809 --> 01:03:15,900 and expands and expands I've got so many 1266 01:03:19,910 --> 01:03:17,819 books on the Fermi Paradox that break 1267 01:03:23,630 --> 01:03:19,920 this down 1268 01:03:27,770 --> 01:03:23,640 um in into hundreds of different filters 1269 01:03:31,250 --> 01:03:27,780 where they can go in uh each author or 1270 01:03:34,430 --> 01:03:31,260 scientist thinker can go into any 1271 01:03:36,530 --> 01:03:34,440 direction and just just go with that and 1272 01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:36,540 Isaac Arthur does it really really well 1273 01:03:41,450 --> 01:03:38,400 he breaks it down all the time and you 1274 01:03:43,630 --> 01:03:41,460 can go just in One Direction and and 1275 01:03:46,130 --> 01:03:43,640 spend so much time 1276 01:03:47,569 --> 01:03:46,140 expanding on that filter and expanding 1277 01:03:50,510 --> 01:03:47,579 on that filter and expanding on that 1278 01:03:54,130 --> 01:03:50,520 filter I just laid out 15 or 20 filters 1279 01:03:58,849 --> 01:03:54,140 right now off the top of my head just 1280 01:04:01,569 --> 01:03:58,859 setting up the show tonight and each one 1281 01:04:05,809 --> 01:04:01,579 each one is a whole show in of itself 1282 01:04:07,970 --> 01:04:05,819 every single one and I just uh talked 1283 01:04:10,190 --> 01:04:07,980 about so that's the Fermi Paradox in a 1284 01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:10,200 nutshell and one of the things that I 1285 01:04:16,250 --> 01:04:13,680 had mentioned earlier which is a very 1286 01:04:17,630 --> 01:04:16,260 important concept to understand and to 1287 01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:17,640 grasp 1288 01:04:22,370 --> 01:04:20,280 here on Earth you know how does a 1289 01:04:23,930 --> 01:04:22,380 civilization grow where do they get to a 1290 01:04:27,010 --> 01:04:23,940 technical level where do they go from 1291 01:04:29,809 --> 01:04:27,020 the wheel you know to to space travel 1292 01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:29,819 and and and what is involved in the 1293 01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:32,579 middle of all of that in in in that 1294 01:04:39,530 --> 01:04:37,500 growth and and to physically Advance uh 1295 01:04:42,589 --> 01:04:39,540 on a technical scale well you're going 1296 01:04:45,530 --> 01:04:42,599 to go through certain things and we are 1297 01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:45,540 assuming that other life out there must 1298 01:04:53,210 --> 01:04:48,960 do it pretty much the same way and that 1299 01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:53,220 is you're going to go from fire to 1300 01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:56,400 eventually get to electricity 1301 01:05:03,470 --> 01:04:59,760 um uh electromagnetism and radio waves 1302 01:05:08,030 --> 01:05:03,480 and and and and things in transmission 1303 01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:08,040 uh telephones speakers stereo systems 1304 01:05:13,789 --> 01:05:10,559 audio music and then digital 1305 01:05:16,670 --> 01:05:13,799 transmissions and so for us we went 1306 01:05:18,589 --> 01:05:16,680 through that radio phase the television 1307 01:05:22,190 --> 01:05:18,599 signal phase 1308 01:05:26,270 --> 01:05:22,200 uh for about a hundred years we're 1309 01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:26,280 phasing out of it very very very quickly 1310 01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:28,559 but let's stay right there for a second 1311 01:05:36,109 --> 01:05:32,160 so here we are in 2022. 1312 01:05:38,089 --> 01:05:36,119 we've had the ability 1313 01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:38,099 the ability 1314 01:05:44,809 --> 01:05:42,240 to detect and to listen to radio and 1315 01:05:45,829 --> 01:05:44,819 television signals for only a hundred 1316 01:05:49,609 --> 01:05:45,839 years 1317 01:05:52,730 --> 01:05:49,619 that's it so another distant 1318 01:05:55,010 --> 01:05:52,740 civilization out there that is at our 1319 01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:55,020 level that is broadcasting these signals 1320 01:05:58,970 --> 01:05:57,599 if they did it a thousand years before 1321 01:06:06,589 --> 01:05:58,980 us 1322 01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:06,599 we weren't around to detect it 1323 01:06:10,510 --> 01:06:08,640 we didn't have the ability what if 1324 01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:10,520 they're a million years in front of us 1325 01:06:19,069 --> 01:06:16,089 excited 1326 01:06:21,950 --> 01:06:19,079 you only have that ability to detect it 1327 01:06:24,410 --> 01:06:21,960 for a very short period of time and 1328 01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:24,420 that's when they are being broadcast it 1329 01:06:29,809 --> 01:06:26,880 is such a fundamental part of all of 1330 01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:29,819 this about where are they right well we 1331 01:06:33,890 --> 01:06:31,440 have to be at the right place at the 1332 01:06:36,890 --> 01:06:33,900 right time pointing at the right start 1333 01:06:38,650 --> 01:06:36,900 at the right moment to magically detect 1334 01:06:42,650 --> 01:06:38,660 something 1335 01:06:45,410 --> 01:06:42,660 for another planet out there to look at 1336 01:06:48,710 --> 01:06:45,420 ours so we're we're looking the other 1337 01:06:50,270 --> 01:06:48,720 way in uh with the web telescope and 1338 01:06:52,910 --> 01:06:50,280 we're looking at something that's you 1339 01:06:53,870 --> 01:06:52,920 know I've whatever 10 10 light years 1340 01:06:56,930 --> 01:06:53,880 away 1341 01:06:59,089 --> 01:06:56,940 all right that that's really close 20 1342 01:07:01,609 --> 01:06:59,099 light years away 30 light years away 40 1343 01:07:04,670 --> 01:07:01,619 light years away that would be a miracle 1344 01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:04,680 to find life or a planet that could 1345 01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:07,740 support life now if we go 1346 01:07:11,690 --> 01:07:09,839 and and we find something that is a 1347 01:07:14,089 --> 01:07:11,700 thousand light years away 1348 01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:14,099 a thousand light years that's how long 1349 01:07:20,809 --> 01:07:16,799 light takes to get here a thousand years 1350 01:07:24,410 --> 01:07:20,819 and we detected techno signature does 1351 01:07:27,770 --> 01:07:24,420 that mean that there is still life there 1352 01:07:31,549 --> 01:07:27,780 by the time if think about this it would 1353 01:07:34,250 --> 01:07:31,559 be the same thing in looking at Earth so 1354 01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:34,260 you spot Earth and you're a thousand 1355 01:07:38,630 --> 01:07:36,240 light years away and you spot Earth and 1356 01:07:41,390 --> 01:07:38,640 you're looking at Earth a thousand years 1357 01:07:43,789 --> 01:07:41,400 ago do you get a techno signature 1358 01:07:47,930 --> 01:07:43,799 what do you see now you're going to have 1359 01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:47,940 uh carbon carbon dioxide you're going to 1360 01:07:54,049 --> 01:07:51,839 have hydrogen and nitrogen oxygen uh 1361 01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:54,059 water water vapor 1362 01:07:58,849 --> 01:07:56,640 you can have certain and and they may 1363 01:08:01,609 --> 01:07:58,859 whoa whoa that looks pretty good but do 1364 01:08:04,370 --> 01:08:01,619 they see cities lighting up at night do 1365 01:08:07,190 --> 01:08:04,380 they see a techno signature do they see 1366 01:08:10,370 --> 01:08:07,200 the Industrial Revolution none of they 1367 01:08:13,309 --> 01:08:10,380 see pollution they don't see any of that 1368 01:08:15,230 --> 01:08:13,319 all right so they would have to be 1369 01:08:17,150 --> 01:08:15,240 pointing at Earth at the right time to 1370 01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,160 pick something up and it's the same 1371 01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:19,199 thing going in the other direction 1372 01:08:25,309 --> 01:08:23,279 so when we when we look at Earth and we 1373 01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:25,319 think about all of this oh by the way um 1374 01:08:29,809 --> 01:08:26,880 at this point 1375 01:08:32,809 --> 01:08:29,819 um uh before I wrap this up I do want to 1376 01:08:34,370 --> 01:08:32,819 take the opportunity to uh look at the 1377 01:08:36,709 --> 01:08:34,380 chat room and address some of your 1378 01:08:38,390 --> 01:08:36,719 questions and some of your thoughts and 1379 01:08:40,189 --> 01:08:38,400 and I'll try to squeeze that in before 1380 01:08:42,470 --> 01:08:40,199 the end of the show and if you do have a 1381 01:08:44,990 --> 01:08:42,480 question I just put it in all caps from 1382 01:08:48,229 --> 01:08:45,000 this point out I did notice that there 1383 01:08:50,809 --> 01:08:48,239 were literally uh I think 2 000 comments 1384 01:08:52,970 --> 01:08:50,819 already in the chat room tonight so I I 1385 01:08:54,829 --> 01:08:52,980 can't go backwards but I can I can 1386 01:08:56,209 --> 01:08:54,839 certainly go forwards from here I meant 1387 01:09:00,050 --> 01:08:56,219 to mention that at the top of the show 1388 01:09:01,269 --> 01:09:00,060 okay so it's this window of opportunity 1389 01:09:03,050 --> 01:09:01,279 right 1390 01:09:06,890 --> 01:09:03,060 so 1391 01:09:10,150 --> 01:09:06,900 um uh the the other part uh with this 1392 01:09:13,450 --> 01:09:10,160 when we look at that uh part of this 1393 01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,460 that maybe 1394 01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:15,600 Enrico's question would be answered that 1395 01:09:20,150 --> 01:09:18,000 just maybe 1396 01:09:22,189 --> 01:09:20,160 it's cheaper 1397 01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:22,199 and easier 1398 01:09:34,910 --> 01:09:31,370 yeah then to then to explore physically 1399 01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:34,920 right maybe a civilization may be trying 1400 01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:36,480 to reach out to us 1401 01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:38,460 with a signal 1402 01:09:44,990 --> 01:09:41,520 with information because it's easier to 1403 01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,000 do that certainly cheaper to do that and 1404 01:09:50,450 --> 01:09:47,279 doesn't require resources you're only 1405 01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:50,460 pointing an antenna and and and and 1406 01:09:56,330 --> 01:09:53,759 sending something out and and maybe that 1407 01:09:58,910 --> 01:09:56,340 would be easier but we haven't been 1408 01:10:02,570 --> 01:09:58,920 listening properly and we don't have the 1409 01:10:06,169 --> 01:10:02,580 ability to go and and and do that but I 1410 01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:06,179 think that is an an absolute answer 1411 01:10:11,590 --> 01:10:10,080 an absolute answer to this that we we 1412 01:10:15,470 --> 01:10:11,600 don't understand 1413 01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,480 uh the technology of E.T and we haven't 1414 01:10:20,090 --> 01:10:17,760 been listening the right way 1415 01:10:21,410 --> 01:10:20,100 that the signals are there they're 1416 01:10:23,450 --> 01:10:21,420 reaching out 1417 01:10:25,790 --> 01:10:23,460 you know that they've sent the probes 1418 01:10:29,209 --> 01:10:25,800 out they see where we are technically 1419 01:10:31,310 --> 01:10:29,219 and they they know right they can see 1420 01:10:33,050 --> 01:10:31,320 the satellites orbiting Earth so they 1421 01:10:34,729 --> 01:10:33,060 know where we're at 1422 01:10:37,250 --> 01:10:34,739 but we don't have a way to communicate 1423 01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:37,260 we don't have a way to listen to them 1424 01:10:41,450 --> 01:10:40,080 right and now here's here's the other 1425 01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:41,460 part 1426 01:10:47,689 --> 01:10:44,719 if we're gonna stay on that mindset 1427 01:10:50,570 --> 01:10:47,699 maybe just maybe 1428 01:10:53,630 --> 01:10:50,580 we haven't listened long enough 1429 01:10:55,610 --> 01:10:53,640 right maybe we have to sit 1430 01:10:57,890 --> 01:10:55,620 and just ride this out for a little 1431 01:11:01,310 --> 01:10:57,900 longer if it is a transfer of 1432 01:11:05,689 --> 01:11:01,320 information that's going to be digital 1433 01:11:10,910 --> 01:11:07,729 the other argument we're going to spend 1434 01:11:14,450 --> 01:11:10,920 uh a lot of time on this 1435 01:11:15,709 --> 01:11:14,460 that just may be intelligent life is too 1436 01:11:18,370 --> 01:11:15,719 far away 1437 01:11:22,430 --> 01:11:18,380 now this is an easy 1438 01:11:26,450 --> 01:11:22,440 easy argument to present 1439 01:11:29,689 --> 01:11:26,460 when you go and you look at the one 1440 01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:29,699 basic basic of the basics 1441 01:11:37,209 --> 01:11:32,400 and that is the universe itself the 1442 01:11:40,250 --> 01:11:37,219 observable universe is 95 1443 01:11:41,709 --> 01:11:40,260 billion light years across 1444 01:11:45,890 --> 01:11:41,719 now 1445 01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,050 that is so big 1446 01:11:52,990 --> 01:11:51,120 I mean the universe is a big big place 1447 01:11:56,510 --> 01:11:53,000 and that is 1448 01:11:59,630 --> 01:11:56,520 uh and you start doing the conversion of 1449 01:12:04,250 --> 01:11:59,640 that into miles or astronomical units it 1450 01:12:07,490 --> 01:12:04,260 is crazy big so that's the argument it's 1451 01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:07,500 just it's space is is too big stars are 1452 01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:08,760 too far apart 1453 01:12:13,130 --> 01:12:11,040 right it's just too big it's too big 1454 01:12:15,649 --> 01:12:13,140 intelligent life is there but it's just 1455 01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:15,659 too far away 1456 01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:19,280 the counter to that 1457 01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,000 is not only faster than light travel and 1458 01:12:30,290 --> 01:12:26,640 that may not even be enough 1459 01:12:33,290 --> 01:12:30,300 but there's got to be a simpler way to 1460 01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:33,300 get it all done not only for et but for 1461 01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:37,199 us too as well because the answer to 1462 01:12:43,850 --> 01:12:40,800 going out and and exploring something 1463 01:12:46,430 --> 01:12:43,860 and our closest star system you know 1464 01:12:48,530 --> 01:12:46,440 Proxima Centauri 1465 01:12:53,689 --> 01:12:48,540 four and a half light years away 1466 01:12:56,390 --> 01:12:53,699 and so just with conventional engines uh 1467 01:12:59,209 --> 01:12:56,400 that we have right now our analog way of 1468 01:13:00,530 --> 01:12:59,219 doing things we're talking about 75 1469 01:13:02,450 --> 01:13:00,540 000 years 1470 01:13:04,910 --> 01:13:02,460 just to go four and a half light years 1471 01:13:07,790 --> 01:13:04,920 away 75 000 years 1472 01:13:10,189 --> 01:13:07,800 so that's that's not an answer for us 1473 01:13:14,090 --> 01:13:10,199 that it's it's not so we would have to 1474 01:13:15,410 --> 01:13:14,100 overcome that and E.T and we're going to 1475 01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:15,420 figure out a way to get it done because 1476 01:13:19,970 --> 01:13:17,280 we have to 1477 01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:19,980 um when we uh blow this Popsicle stand 1478 01:13:24,770 --> 01:13:23,040 and we eventually will uh we're not 1479 01:13:26,649 --> 01:13:24,780 going to 1480 01:13:30,110 --> 01:13:26,659 pick a star 1481 01:13:32,090 --> 01:13:30,120 and one uh you know an exoplanet that is 1482 01:13:35,330 --> 01:13:32,100 identical to Earth and it's got a 1483 01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:35,340 biospheres i it's identical and we see 1484 01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:37,440 that it's got grass and trees and it's 1485 01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:39,420 got life and it's got water and it's the 1486 01:13:42,350 --> 01:13:40,560 right temperature and it's everything 1487 01:13:46,370 --> 01:13:42,360 else but 1488 01:13:49,490 --> 01:13:46,380 um it's it's 40 light years away 50 1489 01:13:51,130 --> 01:13:49,500 light years away so we're gonna be on a 1490 01:13:55,330 --> 01:13:51,140 Starship 1491 01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,340 conventional burning fossil fuels right 1492 01:14:01,850 --> 01:13:57,840 a Roman Candle 1493 01:14:02,930 --> 01:14:01,860 for five million years uh to get there 1494 01:14:04,130 --> 01:14:02,940 well 1495 01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:04,140 no 1496 01:14:08,450 --> 01:14:05,760 we're gonna have to overcome that we're 1497 01:14:11,570 --> 01:14:08,460 gonna have to figure that out and ET 1498 01:14:13,490 --> 01:14:11,580 has already figured that out and will we 1499 01:14:16,130 --> 01:14:13,500 figure that out in a thousand years yeah 1500 01:14:18,649 --> 01:14:16,140 we probably will we figure it out in 500 1501 01:14:20,750 --> 01:14:18,659 years probably but if the civilization 1502 01:14:23,689 --> 01:14:20,760 out there is a million years ahead of us 1503 01:14:28,729 --> 01:14:23,699 they've already got that dialed so 1504 01:14:31,550 --> 01:14:28,739 that's where the uh the Extraterrestrial 1505 01:14:34,430 --> 01:14:31,560 civilization that is intelligent is just 1506 01:14:37,070 --> 01:14:34,440 too far away argument doesn't work and 1507 01:14:39,530 --> 01:14:37,080 it doesn't hold water if uh if they're 1508 01:14:40,970 --> 01:14:39,540 out there and they're 50 000 years ahead 1509 01:14:43,070 --> 01:14:40,980 of us hundred thousand years ahead of us 1510 01:14:45,770 --> 01:14:43,080 they've already got that figured out 1511 01:14:47,930 --> 01:14:45,780 right they're not traveling faster than 1512 01:14:50,090 --> 01:14:47,940 the speed of light they're not they're 1513 01:14:52,689 --> 01:14:50,100 traveling at the speed of now and 1514 01:14:55,250 --> 01:14:52,699 they've figured it out and it's probably 1515 01:14:57,649 --> 01:14:55,260 fairly simple 1516 01:15:00,890 --> 01:14:57,659 it's probably easy 1517 01:15:02,870 --> 01:15:00,900 now some of uh some of the evidence that 1518 01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:02,880 we have today when when somebody says 1519 01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:03,920 Jimmy 1520 01:15:09,490 --> 01:15:06,480 where's this idea come from where where 1521 01:15:11,090 --> 01:15:09,500 where's the proof of this 1522 01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:11,100 just 1523 01:15:21,290 --> 01:15:16,800 the comments of the data that we have 1524 01:15:23,930 --> 01:15:21,300 from the Tic Tac going from 80 000 feet 1525 01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:23,940 90 000 feet to sea level in a fraction 1526 01:15:28,189 --> 01:15:25,440 of a second 1527 01:15:30,169 --> 01:15:28,199 just that right there what and and and 1528 01:15:31,910 --> 01:15:30,179 wait a minute you know that could be 1529 01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:31,920 that could be this it could be that okay 1530 01:15:38,290 --> 01:15:34,320 all right all right but 1531 01:15:42,169 --> 01:15:38,300 it stopped that kind of inertia 1532 01:15:45,729 --> 01:15:42,179 that physical transfer that distance 1533 01:15:49,370 --> 01:15:45,739 over that speed and stopping without 1534 01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:49,380 having a concussive tsunami wave 1535 01:15:53,870 --> 01:15:51,840 flooding the west coast of the United 1536 01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:53,880 States it's probably going all the way 1537 01:15:57,709 --> 01:15:55,199 to New York 1538 01:16:00,470 --> 01:15:57,719 that didn't happen there was no 1539 01:16:05,450 --> 01:16:00,480 disturbance in the atmosphere 1540 01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:09,110 and that's what I'm saying that uh the 1541 01:16:16,010 --> 01:16:12,080 the too far away concept now there's 1542 01:16:18,290 --> 01:16:16,020 uh there's physics there that has been 1543 01:16:19,370 --> 01:16:18,300 figured out and we're eventually going 1544 01:16:23,090 --> 01:16:19,380 to do it 1545 01:16:24,770 --> 01:16:23,100 or I I don't know the uh the time span 1546 01:16:25,729 --> 01:16:24,780 of it but I don't think it's that far 1547 01:16:29,870 --> 01:16:25,739 away 1548 01:16:33,050 --> 01:16:29,880 they don't especially uh with uh the 1549 01:16:36,430 --> 01:16:33,060 press release about this uh Wormhole 1550 01:16:39,470 --> 01:16:36,440 that was created up at alphabet 1551 01:16:43,970 --> 01:16:39,480 and the transfer of quantum information 1552 01:16:47,270 --> 01:16:43,980 in a wormhole in a lab that's pretty 1553 01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:47,280 crazy and and how quick now uh the 1554 01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:48,719 comment from the physics is going to be 1555 01:16:51,950 --> 01:16:50,159 a it's going to be a little bit before 1556 01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:51,960 we have humans going through this yeah 1557 01:16:57,649 --> 01:16:54,960 okay but once that is done and you have 1558 01:16:59,570 --> 01:16:57,659 proof of concept and and you've actually 1559 01:17:00,649 --> 01:16:59,580 tested it where do we take it to the 1560 01:17:02,649 --> 01:17:00,659 next level 1561 01:17:05,930 --> 01:17:02,659 it's going to be quicker than we think 1562 01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:05,940 so that the whole Space is too big 1563 01:17:12,649 --> 01:17:09,840 everything is too far away idea no no I 1564 01:17:15,770 --> 01:17:12,659 I just think that is completely off the 1565 01:17:15,780 --> 01:17:21,169 next 1566 01:17:21,179 --> 01:17:26,810 is there a possibility 1567 01:17:26,820 --> 01:17:31,070 that everybody is transmitting 1568 01:17:37,729 --> 01:17:34,070 I mean everybody is listening 1569 01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:37,739 but nobody's transmitting 1570 01:17:44,330 --> 01:17:40,080 now let's 1571 01:17:49,370 --> 01:17:46,209 Stephen Hawking said 1572 01:17:51,770 --> 01:17:49,380 we don't need to be 1573 01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:51,780 letting everybody know where where we 1574 01:17:55,850 --> 01:17:53,280 are 1575 01:17:58,430 --> 01:17:55,860 uh we don't know what we're exposing 1576 01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:58,440 ourselves to we have no idea what the 1577 01:18:01,130 --> 01:18:00,000 intentions are 1578 01:18:05,689 --> 01:18:01,140 yeah 1579 01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:08,030 maybe E.T 1580 01:18:14,209 --> 01:18:11,280 understands that too 1581 01:18:15,530 --> 01:18:14,219 maybe they do maybe they want to be left 1582 01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:15,540 alone 1583 01:18:22,570 --> 01:18:18,480 and maybe they just are not transmitting 1584 01:18:25,070 --> 01:18:22,580 now that doesn't mean that I am negating 1585 01:18:26,990 --> 01:18:25,080 what has been seen in the skies of my 1586 01:18:28,149 --> 01:18:27,000 own things that's not what I'm referring 1587 01:18:31,370 --> 01:18:28,159 to here 1588 01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:31,380 there has to be when we look at the 1589 01:18:35,870 --> 01:18:32,880 Fermi paradox 1590 01:18:38,870 --> 01:18:35,880 an infinite amount of considerations 1591 01:18:40,669 --> 01:18:38,880 here so we have where are the ships well 1592 01:18:42,290 --> 01:18:40,679 the ships are here where the 1593 01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:42,300 transmission where's the communications 1594 01:18:49,550 --> 01:18:46,080 I've just given you 30 different reasons 1595 01:18:50,990 --> 01:18:49,560 why it's difficult for us to Aid to 1596 01:18:52,610 --> 01:18:51,000 listen we have to be at the right place 1597 01:18:54,169 --> 01:18:52,620 at the right time to be able to do that 1598 01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:54,179 we have to know what we're listening for 1599 01:18:59,870 --> 01:18:56,640 right and you also have to have somebody 1600 01:19:02,390 --> 01:18:59,880 that's transmitting so we have all of it 1601 01:19:04,189 --> 01:19:02,400 it just continues it's just an onion 1602 01:19:05,630 --> 01:19:04,199 that you continue to peel back the 1603 01:19:07,850 --> 01:19:05,640 layers of 1604 01:19:10,330 --> 01:19:07,860 so somebody has to be transmitting for 1605 01:19:16,250 --> 01:19:10,340 us to be listening so there's probably 1606 01:19:18,530 --> 01:19:16,260 out of the hundreds of millions of etcs 1607 01:19:21,169 --> 01:19:18,540 out there extraterrestrial civilizations 1608 01:19:23,570 --> 01:19:21,179 there's going to be a chunk of them that 1609 01:19:27,229 --> 01:19:23,580 don't that don't want to transmit 1610 01:19:31,310 --> 01:19:27,239 right and then out of that you have 1611 01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:31,320 those that don't have a need to transmit 1612 01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:33,600 pretty soon on this planet we're not 1613 01:19:39,530 --> 01:19:35,280 going to have anything transmitting off 1614 01:19:42,350 --> 01:19:39,540 of here unless we are taking a a a a a 1615 01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:42,360 radio dish and pointing it somewhere and 1616 01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:46,320 turning it on but but radio and 1617 01:19:50,810 --> 01:19:48,719 television signals naturally being 1618 01:19:52,970 --> 01:19:50,820 projected off of planet Earth right now 1619 01:19:55,729 --> 01:19:52,980 they're so weak and so few right now 1620 01:19:57,229 --> 01:19:55,739 that's one thing and only traveling at 1621 01:20:00,290 --> 01:19:57,239 the speed of light and the second thing 1622 01:20:03,709 --> 01:20:00,300 is uh we're going to be close to none 1623 01:20:06,470 --> 01:20:03,719 you know eventually so yeah they may be 1624 01:20:08,030 --> 01:20:06,480 listening but we're not we're not we're 1625 01:20:10,610 --> 01:20:08,040 not transmitting anything 1626 01:20:13,729 --> 01:20:10,620 and the other the other thing is you 1627 01:20:16,669 --> 01:20:13,739 have to have a very very specific part 1628 01:20:19,910 --> 01:20:16,679 of space that you're pointing to to send 1629 01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:22,850 you're going to radiate a signal in in 1630 01:20:27,890 --> 01:20:25,440 all directions all the time massive 1631 01:20:31,189 --> 01:20:27,900 amounts of energy and bursting it out 1632 01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:31,199 there into space no no we're we're we've 1633 01:20:35,630 --> 01:20:34,080 never done that and we're not going to 1634 01:20:37,370 --> 01:20:35,640 do that 1635 01:20:40,610 --> 01:20:37,380 we would have to have something very 1636 01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:40,620 specific so we would naturally expect 1637 01:20:45,709 --> 01:20:43,679 the same thing coming back are they 1638 01:20:48,229 --> 01:20:45,719 transmitting and are they transmitting 1639 01:20:51,770 --> 01:20:48,239 in our Direction and how are they doing 1640 01:20:54,050 --> 01:20:51,780 it right it's easy to listen we've got 1641 01:20:56,270 --> 01:20:54,060 radio dishes all over the planet we're 1642 01:20:58,130 --> 01:20:56,280 listening to ever as much as we can all 1643 01:21:00,169 --> 01:20:58,140 the time it's a whole other thing going 1644 01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:00,179 in the other direction 1645 01:21:10,570 --> 01:21:06,000 all right now back to Hawking uh and and 1646 01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:10,580 his point and many have made this point 1647 01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:12,480 that 1648 01:21:17,570 --> 01:21:15,360 although it may be a small part of of 1649 01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:17,580 the Milky Way 1650 01:21:21,950 --> 01:21:20,159 maybe communication like that just is 1651 01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:21,960 completely dangerous 1652 01:21:28,430 --> 01:21:24,239 that most of the intelligent life out 1653 01:21:31,870 --> 01:21:28,440 there is is smart mature they're not 1654 01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:31,880 hostile they're not concerned with that 1655 01:21:38,450 --> 01:21:34,320 but some are 1656 01:21:41,570 --> 01:21:38,460 and the second that they detect what is 1657 01:21:46,130 --> 01:21:41,580 going on they turn their ships what or 1658 01:21:50,810 --> 01:21:49,310 Third Rock from their son 1659 01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:50,820 let's go 1660 01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:54,719 right and and there may be that 1661 01:22:00,770 --> 01:21:57,600 so maybe reaching out there and saying 1662 01:22:02,330 --> 01:22:00,780 hello is dangerous not to everything but 1663 01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:02,340 it only takes one 1664 01:22:07,070 --> 01:22:05,040 now my argument with that 1665 01:22:10,130 --> 01:22:07,080 and I keep coming back to this if 1666 01:22:12,649 --> 01:22:10,140 somebody really had bad intentions uh I 1667 01:22:17,570 --> 01:22:12,659 I think we would know it by now I we we 1668 01:22:19,370 --> 01:22:17,580 100 would know it and and we would no as 1669 01:22:21,169 --> 01:22:19,380 a matter of fact 1670 01:22:23,930 --> 01:22:21,179 we wouldn't know it it would happen so 1671 01:22:26,750 --> 01:22:23,940 quick it wouldn't be some other ship 1672 01:22:29,570 --> 01:22:26,760 showing up here and you know uh an 1673 01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:29,580 Interstellar war and we're gonna defend 1674 01:22:37,130 --> 01:22:33,199 the planet with uh AR-15s and 1675 01:22:38,570 --> 01:22:37,140 yf-22s no no it's it it we we wouldn't 1676 01:22:41,570 --> 01:22:38,580 see it coming 1677 01:22:44,209 --> 01:22:41,580 all right so uh there is that but you 1678 01:22:47,090 --> 01:22:44,219 you just don't want that point 1679 01:22:49,729 --> 01:22:47,100 right and and so lighting a candle and 1680 01:22:52,850 --> 01:22:49,739 saying here we are and attempting 1681 01:22:55,850 --> 01:22:52,860 communication just may be dangerous and 1682 01:22:58,610 --> 01:22:55,860 it's something that uh uh is something 1683 01:23:04,669 --> 01:22:58,620 to be considered now here is another 1684 01:23:04,679 --> 01:23:08,270 Maybe 1685 01:23:14,450 --> 01:23:11,890 maybe there is so much goodness 1686 01:23:15,950 --> 01:23:14,460 in the Milky Way 1687 01:23:17,689 --> 01:23:15,960 in the rest of the universe maybe 1688 01:23:19,970 --> 01:23:17,699 there's so much goodness so much 1689 01:23:21,649 --> 01:23:19,980 advanced 1690 01:23:23,870 --> 01:23:21,659 knowledge 1691 01:23:26,770 --> 01:23:23,880 such a maturity out there so much 1692 01:23:32,570 --> 01:23:26,780 goodness out there 1693 01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:32,580 that Earth is being deliberately avoided 1694 01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:35,520 now before you go huh wait wait wait 1695 01:23:42,550 --> 01:23:40,970 and it it's kind of like the prime 1696 01:23:46,850 --> 01:23:42,560 directive 1697 01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:46,860 but um we're being monitored 1698 01:23:53,450 --> 01:23:50,159 they know where we're at they they see 1699 01:23:55,729 --> 01:23:53,460 what's going on they understand they 1700 01:23:57,950 --> 01:23:55,739 know that there's life here they they 1701 01:24:00,649 --> 01:23:57,960 get that they are sending probes here 1702 01:24:03,530 --> 01:24:00,659 they're scientifically investigating 1703 01:24:04,910 --> 01:24:03,540 this planet and every other planet 1704 01:24:07,490 --> 01:24:04,920 um in the Milky Way they're they're 1705 01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:07,500 doing all of that and they know where we 1706 01:24:13,610 --> 01:24:11,520 are but they're leaving us alone 1707 01:24:16,430 --> 01:24:13,620 that they're they you know they want us 1708 01:24:19,250 --> 01:24:16,440 to grow in the Blossom on our own 1709 01:24:23,950 --> 01:24:19,260 just maybe that is the case 1710 01:24:30,229 --> 01:24:27,410 would we do the same thing and I think 1711 01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:30,239 the short answer to that is yes would we 1712 01:24:36,050 --> 01:24:33,360 do the same thing what is the advantage 1713 01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:36,060 now we go to 1714 01:24:40,370 --> 01:24:37,199 um 1715 01:24:42,590 --> 01:24:40,380 uh 2001 A Space Odyssey 1716 01:24:44,630 --> 01:24:42,600 and as much as I love that film and 1717 01:24:47,090 --> 01:24:44,640 everybody knows I I just watched it last 1718 01:24:48,890 --> 01:24:47,100 month and I sent out the pictures of of 1719 01:24:51,290 --> 01:24:48,900 me watching it I love that film I watch 1720 01:24:53,630 --> 01:24:51,300 it all the time 1721 01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:53,640 for many reasons 1722 01:24:59,930 --> 01:24:57,360 but the concept that Arthur C Clarke and 1723 01:25:02,450 --> 01:24:59,940 Stanley Kubrick did in the beginning of 1724 01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:02,460 that film with monoliths being 1725 01:25:08,870 --> 01:25:04,800 deliberately buried on the moon and the 1726 01:25:14,090 --> 01:25:08,880 monolith uh Landing here on Earth 1727 01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:14,100 um uh and to teach and it's it's laid 1728 01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:17,280 out in in the book uh better than it is 1729 01:25:22,370 --> 01:25:19,440 in the movie in the book a picture 1730 01:25:23,330 --> 01:25:22,380 screen pops up shows them how to make 1731 01:25:25,310 --> 01:25:23,340 fire 1732 01:25:28,130 --> 01:25:25,320 shows them how to do things how to how 1733 01:25:30,410 --> 01:25:28,140 to you know make tools and all this 1734 01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:30,420 comes on a screen and it teaches right 1735 01:25:37,250 --> 01:25:34,320 okay so would we do something like that 1736 01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:37,260 I think that was uh an inaccurate part 1737 01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:40,800 of of Arthur C Clarke now this was a in 1738 01:25:46,370 --> 01:25:44,400 an alien species coming to Earth but us 1739 01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:46,380 going in the other direction would we do 1740 01:25:53,689 --> 01:25:50,630 I I don't think we would 1741 01:25:55,669 --> 01:25:53,699 right where we we go to a planet we find 1742 01:25:58,910 --> 01:25:55,679 out that there's life there we land and 1743 01:26:01,189 --> 01:25:58,920 we do see we see a version of us Homo 1744 01:26:04,250 --> 01:26:01,199 sapiens sapien there but but they don't 1745 01:26:07,850 --> 01:26:04,260 have fire yet you know they they're 1746 01:26:10,669 --> 01:26:07,860 using bones for tools or for weapons 1747 01:26:13,010 --> 01:26:10,679 and and we're gonna 1748 01:26:15,709 --> 01:26:13,020 teach them how to make fire would we 1749 01:26:18,050 --> 01:26:15,719 would we do that would we toss them a 1750 01:26:20,750 --> 01:26:18,060 big lighter and show them that it's it's 1751 01:26:23,270 --> 01:26:20,760 this easy and and and here would we do 1752 01:26:26,410 --> 01:26:23,280 that no I I don't I think that we would 1753 01:26:29,090 --> 01:26:26,420 leave them alone but we would check in 1754 01:26:31,910 --> 01:26:29,100 we would monitor 1755 01:26:33,770 --> 01:26:31,920 we would check on the progress 1756 01:26:35,450 --> 01:26:33,780 I think that we would do that and I 1757 01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:35,460 think that 1758 01:26:43,070 --> 01:26:39,360 um a possibility is is just that that we 1759 01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:43,080 are being deliberately avoided 1760 01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:46,320 yeah now that doesn't mean that 1761 01:26:54,110 --> 01:26:50,880 eventually we become a a player in the 1762 01:26:56,510 --> 01:26:54,120 galactic part of of the Milky Way and 1763 01:27:00,050 --> 01:26:56,520 we're trading and we're sharing and 1764 01:27:01,129 --> 01:27:00,060 we're visiting planets and and uh you 1765 01:27:03,649 --> 01:27:01,139 know living 1766 01:27:06,709 --> 01:27:03,659 The Fifth Element and and doing those 1767 01:27:09,470 --> 01:27:06,719 things yeah yeah that eventually are we 1768 01:27:13,070 --> 01:27:09,480 ready for that now no I think we all 1769 01:27:17,649 --> 01:27:13,080 know that and they are waiting for us 1770 01:27:20,330 --> 01:27:17,659 now to to get all metaphysical and and 1771 01:27:23,570 --> 01:27:20,340 conscious oriented and talk about our 1772 01:27:27,890 --> 01:27:23,580 space brothers and and we've got to live 1773 01:27:29,870 --> 01:27:27,900 uh uh raise our or you know or you know 1774 01:27:33,590 --> 01:27:29,880 we got to get to 5D and we got to get to 1775 01:27:36,890 --> 01:27:33,600 60. well okay yeah yeah but not really 1776 01:27:39,290 --> 01:27:36,900 we're just simply not ready for it 1777 01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:39,300 we're simply not ready we're too wrapped 1778 01:27:46,250 --> 01:27:42,480 up in war and weapons and guns and and 1779 01:27:48,229 --> 01:27:46,260 and and nuclear bombs and to this and 1780 01:27:50,510 --> 01:27:48,239 that that's where we are right now we're 1781 01:27:54,169 --> 01:27:50,520 not we're simply not ready for it we've 1782 01:27:58,250 --> 01:27:54,179 got to move on past it now the the other 1783 01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:58,260 part when we are talking about uh uh 1784 01:28:01,250 --> 01:27:59,040 uh 1785 01:28:04,970 --> 01:28:01,260 um the 1786 01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:04,980 the Fermi Paradox is 1787 01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:08,940 if we if we back up 1788 01:28:16,010 --> 01:28:13,380 and we take a look at where we are 1789 01:28:18,890 --> 01:28:16,020 and what 1790 01:28:22,370 --> 01:28:18,900 E.T is seeing 1791 01:28:28,010 --> 01:28:25,070 and and what Fermi was expecting by 1792 01:28:30,050 --> 01:28:28,020 there there must be somebody out there 1793 01:28:33,290 --> 01:28:30,060 that wants to shake our hands and 1794 01:28:37,129 --> 01:28:33,300 there's so much of of that type of Life 1795 01:28:39,250 --> 01:28:37,139 out there that we have to be no no I I 1796 01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:39,260 just don't think we're at that point 1797 01:28:46,490 --> 01:28:44,159 and even if now I keep going back to uh 1798 01:28:49,129 --> 01:28:46,500 the Von Neumann probes 1799 01:28:52,430 --> 01:28:49,139 because of what we are doing here in our 1800 01:28:55,970 --> 01:28:52,440 own solar system and what we would like 1801 01:28:58,070 --> 01:28:55,980 to do with the rest of the Milky Way and 1802 01:29:01,070 --> 01:28:58,080 we're we're looking further and further 1803 01:29:04,430 --> 01:29:01,080 out with space telescopes and tests and 1804 01:29:06,530 --> 01:29:04,440 and uh the web telescope if that's what 1805 01:29:09,530 --> 01:29:06,540 we are doing right and we are looking 1806 01:29:12,290 --> 01:29:09,540 further and further out then yes 1807 01:29:16,610 --> 01:29:12,300 yes we are being visited we're being 1808 01:29:17,450 --> 01:29:16,620 visited a lot the the other part though 1809 01:29:19,310 --> 01:29:17,460 um 1810 01:29:20,270 --> 01:29:19,320 that I was just getting ready to get 1811 01:29:23,390 --> 01:29:20,280 into 1812 01:29:25,550 --> 01:29:23,400 is contact and contact of the Third Kind 1813 01:29:29,870 --> 01:29:25,560 and The Fourth Kind and 1814 01:29:31,970 --> 01:29:29,880 and what are what is it that uh people 1815 01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:31,980 on this planet are experiencing right 1816 01:29:36,410 --> 01:29:34,560 now and that is another part that uh 1817 01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:36,420 Fermi wasn't dealing with or was 1818 01:29:42,110 --> 01:29:38,639 thinking about in concept 1819 01:29:44,570 --> 01:29:42,120 um in 1950 and and certainly uh the 1820 01:29:50,030 --> 01:29:44,580 Drake equation in 1961 Betty and Barney 1821 01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:50,040 Hill that was 1961. and so are we is 1822 01:29:53,629 --> 01:29:52,500 there intentional contact going on right 1823 01:30:03,050 --> 01:29:53,639 now 1824 01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:03,060 tonight with the Fermi Paradox 1825 01:30:10,669 --> 01:30:06,480 um talking about E.T is already here 1826 01:30:15,709 --> 01:30:10,679 right now beings 1827 01:30:17,590 --> 01:30:15,719 gray aliens reptilians mantid beings 1828 01:30:20,890 --> 01:30:17,600 right 1829 01:30:25,610 --> 01:30:20,900 energy beings 1830 01:30:28,129 --> 01:30:25,620 is this part of what is going on 1831 01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:28,139 I would say that 1832 01:30:33,410 --> 01:30:30,000 Fermi 1833 01:30:34,910 --> 01:30:33,420 with what is uh the conversation that is 1834 01:30:38,450 --> 01:30:34,920 going on today with contact and 1835 01:30:40,250 --> 01:30:38,460 abductees and and if cattle mutilations 1836 01:30:42,770 --> 01:30:40,260 and everything else that that would 1837 01:30:45,770 --> 01:30:42,780 change the conversation 1838 01:30:50,570 --> 01:30:45,780 and is this part of contact 1839 01:30:54,709 --> 01:30:50,580 right is this what is going on so with 1840 01:30:54,719 --> 01:30:58,129 I think 1841 01:31:01,370 --> 01:31:00,169 and I'm feeling pretty confident about 1842 01:31:04,790 --> 01:31:01,380 this 1843 01:31:08,209 --> 01:31:04,800 that whatever life is 1844 01:31:12,169 --> 01:31:08,219 possibly visiting this planet 1845 01:31:15,530 --> 01:31:12,179 that they have the ability 1846 01:31:16,990 --> 01:31:15,540 to be in an interdimensional 1847 01:31:22,669 --> 01:31:17,000 existence 1848 01:31:25,370 --> 01:31:22,679 that they are showing up and leaving 1849 01:31:27,950 --> 01:31:25,380 in a dimension in another parallel world 1850 01:31:31,550 --> 01:31:27,960 and something that physics and Sciences 1851 01:31:33,110 --> 01:31:31,560 is desperately trying to to prove and to 1852 01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:33,120 show us 1853 01:31:39,830 --> 01:31:36,239 but that may be the case now what would 1854 01:31:41,810 --> 01:31:39,840 in uh what would Enrico Fermi and Ed 1855 01:31:43,550 --> 01:31:41,820 teller and others back in the day 1856 01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:43,560 Oppenheimer 1857 01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:45,360 with this concept 1858 01:31:51,110 --> 01:31:48,000 because it's not a nuts and bolts 1859 01:31:52,270 --> 01:31:51,120 situation they were dealing with speed 1860 01:31:57,550 --> 01:31:52,280 of light 1861 01:32:00,890 --> 01:31:57,560 uh uh a craft made of materials being 1862 01:32:04,010 --> 01:32:00,900 driven by a physical being and arriving 1863 01:32:06,770 --> 01:32:04,020 here on planet Earth where today where 1864 01:32:09,590 --> 01:32:06,780 we have millions of experiencers and 1865 01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:09,600 abductees that speak of something else 1866 01:32:16,610 --> 01:32:13,199 when it comes to contact and that I I 1867 01:32:19,010 --> 01:32:16,620 think that the possibility is there that 1868 01:32:20,270 --> 01:32:19,020 there's an interdimensional concept to 1869 01:32:22,610 --> 01:32:20,280 all of this 1870 01:32:25,669 --> 01:32:22,620 and that's where we are today 1871 01:32:28,250 --> 01:32:25,679 so with that 1872 01:32:30,890 --> 01:32:28,260 with some of the sightings that is 1873 01:32:33,950 --> 01:32:30,900 happening in the air where are they you 1874 01:32:36,350 --> 01:32:33,960 know up in the skies where these craft 1875 01:32:40,129 --> 01:32:36,360 and I've seen them myself 1876 01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:40,139 up here and leave 1877 01:32:49,629 --> 01:32:46,910 one of the best examples I have of this 1878 01:32:53,390 --> 01:32:49,639 that I've seen 1879 01:32:56,330 --> 01:32:53,400 was the Zorro Z 1880 01:32:58,669 --> 01:32:56,340 now this was 1881 01:33:02,050 --> 01:32:58,679 um and I've I've described this to 1882 01:33:05,470 --> 01:33:02,060 everybody before but this is the concept 1883 01:33:07,189 --> 01:33:05,480 that Fermi this would change everything 1884 01:33:09,890 --> 01:33:07,199 he wouldn't have had the same 1885 01:33:11,689 --> 01:33:09,900 conversation if he experienced 1886 01:33:14,870 --> 01:33:11,699 what I experienced with a group of 1887 01:33:19,910 --> 01:33:14,880 people and this was 1888 01:33:22,030 --> 01:33:19,920 it appeared to me that this blue light 1889 01:33:25,610 --> 01:33:22,040 was blue green 1890 01:33:27,709 --> 01:33:25,620 appeared in the sky it lit up and across 1891 01:33:30,350 --> 01:33:27,719 the sky did a z went this way and then 1892 01:33:33,050 --> 01:33:30,360 disappeared but it took up a huge chunk 1893 01:33:36,770 --> 01:33:33,060 of the sky I don't know how many degrees 1894 01:33:38,689 --> 01:33:36,780 across the sky and it lasted for 1895 01:33:43,129 --> 01:33:38,699 a second 1896 01:33:48,169 --> 01:33:43,139 was two seconds long it was very quick 1897 01:33:50,990 --> 01:33:48,179 but that appeared and then left 1898 01:33:53,270 --> 01:33:51,000 so what what is that so then if we go 1899 01:33:55,550 --> 01:33:53,280 back to 1900 01:33:57,110 --> 01:33:55,560 um a tear in the sky 1901 01:34:00,649 --> 01:33:57,120 where 1902 01:34:02,810 --> 01:34:00,659 um in that film it appears that a hole 1903 01:34:05,450 --> 01:34:02,820 in the sky opens up and dozens and 1904 01:34:07,850 --> 01:34:05,460 dozens of craft as Carolyn Corey's new 1905 01:34:09,649 --> 01:34:07,860 film it's extraordinary that this was 1906 01:34:12,590 --> 01:34:09,659 caught 1907 01:34:15,350 --> 01:34:12,600 um on on video and film and measured 1908 01:34:17,450 --> 01:34:15,360 and the data was collected but that this 1909 01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:17,460 opening happened over Southern 1910 01:34:24,950 --> 01:34:20,880 California and dozens of objects 1911 01:34:27,590 --> 01:34:24,960 then appeared out of it and through it 1912 01:34:30,830 --> 01:34:27,600 this changes everything too 1913 01:34:32,090 --> 01:34:30,840 and and how would Fermi then try to 1914 01:34:34,430 --> 01:34:32,100 apply 1915 01:34:36,110 --> 01:34:34,440 his statement to something like that 1916 01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:36,120 because we're not talking about faster 1917 01:34:39,709 --> 01:34:37,440 than light now we're talking about 1918 01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:39,719 something that's opening up in the sky 1919 01:34:48,350 --> 01:34:45,600 so yes I I I I feel that the Fermi 1920 01:34:50,570 --> 01:34:48,360 Paradox today does not apply 1921 01:34:55,149 --> 01:34:50,580 I don't think that the Drake equation 1922 01:34:58,010 --> 01:34:55,159 applies today the Drake equation numbers 1923 01:35:01,310 --> 01:34:58,020 when we plug in the data that we know 1924 01:35:05,030 --> 01:35:01,320 now how stars are formed how many stars 1925 01:35:07,490 --> 01:35:05,040 are in our Milky Way and then tying to 1926 01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:07,500 that there's at least one planet we have 1927 01:35:11,689 --> 01:35:10,320 eight nine ten planets we can count 1928 01:35:14,330 --> 01:35:11,699 series 1929 01:35:17,750 --> 01:35:14,340 um and Planet X 10 planets just in our 1930 01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:17,760 star system so if we've got 500 billion 1931 01:35:22,189 --> 01:35:20,400 to one trillion stars in the Milky Way 1932 01:35:23,689 --> 01:35:22,199 and we truly honestly don't know if 1933 01:35:25,790 --> 01:35:23,699 everything is guesswork but but 1934 01:35:29,090 --> 01:35:25,800 somewhere in there that we are now 1935 01:35:32,450 --> 01:35:29,100 talking about uh a trillion or more 1936 01:35:34,250 --> 01:35:32,460 planets just in the Milky Way it upsets 1937 01:35:35,410 --> 01:35:34,260 the Drake equation into another 1938 01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:35,420 Direction 1939 01:35:40,629 --> 01:35:38,159 the the other part some of the hard 1940 01:35:46,430 --> 01:35:40,639 numbers uh for the Drake equation that 1941 01:35:49,669 --> 01:35:46,440 again makes it uh not usable is that we 1942 01:35:52,790 --> 01:35:49,679 are guesstimating now that one out of 1943 01:35:55,550 --> 01:35:52,800 two one out of four planets is Rocky and 1944 01:35:57,530 --> 01:35:55,560 Earth-like and then how many are in the 1945 01:35:59,629 --> 01:35:57,540 Goldilocks zone which is something else 1946 01:36:02,629 --> 01:35:59,639 that wasn't applied back with uh the 1947 01:36:05,470 --> 01:36:02,639 Drake equation or fermi's concept of 1948 01:36:08,810 --> 01:36:05,480 things 1950 we were the only planet 1949 01:36:12,110 --> 01:36:08,820 today we know that that is not the case 1950 01:36:15,290 --> 01:36:12,120 so the numbers as you plug it in today 1951 01:36:19,610 --> 01:36:15,300 into the Drake equation now we're 1952 01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:19,620 looking at uh a crazy not a hundred 1953 01:36:27,470 --> 01:36:22,560 million which is a big number but we're 1954 01:36:30,770 --> 01:36:27,480 talking about 40 billion a hundred 1955 01:36:32,450 --> 01:36:30,780 billion earth-like planets just in the 1956 01:36:34,850 --> 01:36:32,460 Goldilocks zone 1957 01:36:37,970 --> 01:36:34,860 in the Milky Way 1958 01:36:39,950 --> 01:36:37,980 so now how much of that and how you know 1959 01:36:43,790 --> 01:36:39,960 how does that spin off and what is in 1960 01:36:45,470 --> 01:36:43,800 our Galactic neighborhood it's uh it 1961 01:36:47,450 --> 01:36:45,480 just doesn't apply 1962 01:36:50,870 --> 01:36:47,460 so today 1963 01:36:55,370 --> 01:36:50,880 um uh I mean today today 1964 01:36:57,890 --> 01:36:55,380 um you can go and look at uh 75 or 100 1965 01:37:02,030 --> 01:36:57,900 different filters today I went through 1966 01:37:05,149 --> 01:37:02,040 25. I I've I could have done 200 uh 1967 01:37:07,990 --> 01:37:05,159 today I went through 25 30 filters you 1968 01:37:13,129 --> 01:37:08,000 can go and and examine 1969 01:37:15,770 --> 01:37:13,139 75 to 100 filters on each level of the 1970 01:37:19,310 --> 01:37:15,780 Fermi Paradox trying to answer different 1971 01:37:21,229 --> 01:37:19,320 uh different sections of the Fermi 1972 01:37:25,669 --> 01:37:21,239 Paradox of which generally there's five 1973 01:37:28,370 --> 01:37:25,679 and you have say 75 to 100 filters on 1974 01:37:31,390 --> 01:37:28,380 each one of those right and each one of 1975 01:37:33,229 --> 01:37:31,400 those filters of the 75 on the subset 1976 01:37:37,669 --> 01:37:33,239 expands out 1977 01:37:40,189 --> 01:37:37,679 and all of it is in of of an old concept 1978 01:37:42,530 --> 01:37:40,199 and it doesn't apply today 1979 01:37:45,350 --> 01:37:42,540 it doesn't all of the arguments were 1980 01:37:48,350 --> 01:37:45,360 valid and it was based on the current 1981 01:37:50,270 --> 01:37:48,360 data that was around at that time but it 1982 01:37:52,209 --> 01:37:50,280 doesn't it doesn't it doesn't apply 1983 01:37:54,890 --> 01:37:52,219 today 1984 01:37:57,050 --> 01:37:54,900 so there you go 1985 01:38:00,709 --> 01:37:57,060 um let me see here let me see if I can 1986 01:38:02,990 --> 01:38:00,719 get to some of your points uh 1987 01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:03,000 uh Drake should have made a c 1988 01:38:07,790 --> 01:38:04,400 uh 1989 01:38:13,550 --> 01:38:10,610 I was all about this from Skyhawk I was 1990 01:38:17,750 --> 01:38:13,560 all about let me let me pull this down 1991 01:38:23,390 --> 01:38:20,090 50 years ago I was all about Nuts and 1992 01:38:27,890 --> 01:38:23,400 Bolts from a galaxy far far away I have 1993 01:38:29,570 --> 01:38:27,900 evolved and I used to do the same thing 1994 01:38:31,070 --> 01:38:29,580 I used to do the same thing and I used 1995 01:38:34,370 --> 01:38:31,080 to make these comments and I used to go 1996 01:38:35,270 --> 01:38:34,380 into uh different uh groups on the 1997 01:38:37,729 --> 01:38:35,280 internet 1998 01:38:40,430 --> 01:38:37,739 um especially in the 90s where I would 1999 01:38:42,530 --> 01:38:40,440 make those comments and it's not that 2000 01:38:45,590 --> 01:38:42,540 long ago 25 years ago almost 30 years 2001 01:38:48,770 --> 01:38:45,600 ago where I would say I don't know where 2002 01:38:50,330 --> 01:38:48,780 there with everything that I have seen 2003 01:38:51,950 --> 01:38:50,340 and with everything that has been 2004 01:38:55,070 --> 01:38:51,960 witnessed and everything that has been 2005 01:38:59,750 --> 01:38:55,080 talked about there must be 2006 01:39:03,110 --> 01:38:59,760 a highway that is bumper to bumper 2007 01:39:06,890 --> 01:39:03,120 traffic jammed coming to Earth and why 2008 01:39:10,129 --> 01:39:06,900 can't we point telescopes out there and 2009 01:39:12,050 --> 01:39:10,139 detect all of these ships these flyings 2010 01:39:13,310 --> 01:39:12,060 officers these craft that are 2011 01:39:15,890 --> 01:39:13,320 approaching Earth 2012 01:39:18,229 --> 01:39:15,900 I mean they they're just flooding in 2013 01:39:20,689 --> 01:39:18,239 from everywhere why why don't we see 2014 01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:20,699 that yeah I used to be completely Nuts 2015 01:39:27,050 --> 01:39:24,239 and Bolts I was I was that way 2016 01:39:30,830 --> 01:39:27,060 absolutely absolutely and I used to make 2017 01:39:33,770 --> 01:39:30,840 this argument and here's the thing 2018 01:39:36,970 --> 01:39:33,780 um uh the um 2019 01:39:42,370 --> 01:39:36,980 uh responses that I used to get 2020 01:39:45,310 --> 01:39:42,380 uh to my points were so especially now 2021 01:39:48,470 --> 01:39:45,320 we're so 2022 01:39:50,810 --> 01:39:48,480 juvenile I mean nobody knew nobody had a 2023 01:39:52,550 --> 01:39:50,820 grasp nobody you know and the whole 2024 01:39:54,350 --> 01:39:52,560 inter dimension of the whole faster than 2025 01:39:56,450 --> 01:39:54,360 light the whole folding of space or 2026 01:39:58,910 --> 01:39:56,460 wormholes and they they were kind of 2027 01:40:02,930 --> 01:39:58,920 discussed but we didn't understand like 2028 01:40:05,870 --> 01:40:02,940 we do today and those parts of these 2029 01:40:09,110 --> 01:40:05,880 conversations were never brought in into 2030 01:40:13,370 --> 01:40:09,120 the debate not like they are today and I 2031 01:40:16,189 --> 01:40:13,380 have changed I have completely changed 2032 01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:16,199 completely change I am absolutely 2033 01:40:23,450 --> 01:40:21,600 convinced that uh you uh if you're out 2034 01:40:25,189 --> 01:40:23,460 there and you're a million light years 2035 01:40:26,930 --> 01:40:25,199 away and this is where you want to go 2036 01:40:28,850 --> 01:40:26,940 you just do it 2037 01:40:30,649 --> 01:40:28,860 you're not spending a million years 2038 01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:30,659 traveling you're not 2039 01:40:36,050 --> 01:40:34,080 you're spending a nanosecond you're just 2040 01:40:39,350 --> 01:40:36,060 there 2041 01:40:41,450 --> 01:40:39,360 I am sure they have all different ways 2042 01:40:43,910 --> 01:40:41,460 how they maneuver in and out of 2043 01:40:46,430 --> 01:40:43,920 different dimensions I I think that and 2044 01:40:48,290 --> 01:40:46,440 see now here we have this is Stargazer 2045 01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:48,300 thank you for that 2046 01:40:55,550 --> 01:40:52,560 um which goes back to my point it was a 2047 01:40:58,310 --> 01:40:55,560 such a a fundamental basic way of 2048 01:41:01,790 --> 01:40:58,320 arguing these points you know 50 years 2049 01:41:03,950 --> 01:41:01,800 ago 25 years ago we we just did now 2050 01:41:07,010 --> 01:41:03,960 today I think that everybody understands 2051 01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:07,020 these Concepts it's a different thing we 2052 01:41:10,970 --> 01:41:07,920 know 2053 01:41:14,870 --> 01:41:10,980 that look 2054 01:41:16,910 --> 01:41:14,880 this is if we are going to take 2055 01:41:19,669 --> 01:41:16,920 let's okay let's talk about Bob Lazar 2056 01:41:23,149 --> 01:41:19,679 let's take Bob Lazar at his word right 2057 01:41:25,729 --> 01:41:23,159 so he goes out to the sport model it's 2058 01:41:28,370 --> 01:41:25,739 floating and he goes outside and he sees 2059 01:41:30,770 --> 01:41:28,380 the door remember and they go okay dude 2060 01:41:33,530 --> 01:41:30,780 go in there and check it out so he goes 2061 01:41:35,330 --> 01:41:33,540 out he climbs in and what does he 2062 01:41:38,030 --> 01:41:35,340 describe 2063 01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:38,040 there's a chair 2064 01:41:41,870 --> 01:41:39,840 okay what else well that was about it 2065 01:41:44,990 --> 01:41:41,880 you know there's a flat floor 2066 01:41:48,169 --> 01:41:45,000 the the uh the three drive units were 2067 01:41:50,990 --> 01:41:48,179 were underneath the three gravity drives 2068 01:41:55,490 --> 01:41:51,000 okay but but what else I mean that was 2069 01:41:58,250 --> 01:41:55,500 now are you are you telling me this is 2070 01:42:04,669 --> 01:41:58,260 where we have advanced are you telling 2071 01:42:08,570 --> 01:42:04,679 me that dude is gonna sit in that chair 2072 01:42:12,590 --> 01:42:10,790 you don't have a pool table you don't 2073 01:42:14,149 --> 01:42:12,600 have a pool you don't have a bed you 2074 01:42:16,490 --> 01:42:14,159 don't have a bedroom 2075 01:42:18,410 --> 01:42:16,500 you don't have a stereo system you don't 2076 01:42:19,790 --> 01:42:18,420 have pictures on the wall you don't have 2077 01:42:22,729 --> 01:42:19,800 a dining room table you've got nothing 2078 01:42:25,609 --> 01:42:22,739 but a chair and you're going to sit in 2079 01:42:28,490 --> 01:42:25,619 this tiny little flying saucer that is 2080 01:42:31,370 --> 01:42:28,500 20 feet across and you're gonna you're 2081 01:42:36,590 --> 01:42:31,380 gonna spend time 2082 01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:39,410 for a million years just to get here to 2083 01:42:44,450 --> 01:42:42,719 Earth I mean how do you get up and 2084 01:42:46,490 --> 01:42:44,460 stretch your legs what do you do 2085 01:42:51,649 --> 01:42:46,500 where do you sleep 2086 01:42:53,390 --> 01:42:51,659 well if we take Bob out of his word and 2087 01:42:57,050 --> 01:42:53,400 that is the case 2088 01:43:00,590 --> 01:42:57,060 it's because he sat down in that chair 2089 01:43:06,109 --> 01:43:02,990 yeah 2090 01:43:08,270 --> 01:43:06,119 that goes with any of this 2091 01:43:09,709 --> 01:43:08,280 any of this because 2092 01:43:11,030 --> 01:43:09,719 if you're gonna if you're gonna go 2093 01:43:15,649 --> 01:43:11,040 beyond that 2094 01:43:20,709 --> 01:43:15,659 and and and travel this way you are 2095 01:43:22,750 --> 01:43:20,719 going to be on a ship that has a city 2096 01:43:27,169 --> 01:43:22,760 schools 2097 01:43:30,109 --> 01:43:27,179 hospitals stores Apartments houses Homes 2098 01:43:36,109 --> 01:43:33,370 and you're gonna live on that for 2099 01:43:39,709 --> 01:43:36,119 thousands of years 2100 01:43:43,490 --> 01:43:39,719 you're going to be on a colony ship 2101 01:43:45,770 --> 01:43:43,500 where and and by the time you get to 2102 01:43:48,649 --> 01:43:45,780 where you're going you 2103 01:43:50,149 --> 01:43:48,659 've been dead for 10 000 years it's your 2104 01:43:53,930 --> 01:43:50,159 great great great great great great 2105 01:43:56,090 --> 01:43:53,940 great cloned grandchildren that are 2106 01:43:56,810 --> 01:43:56,100 going to arrive at that planet you're 2107 01:44:01,070 --> 01:43:56,820 not 2108 01:44:02,870 --> 01:44:01,080 there when it departs 2109 01:44:04,430 --> 01:44:02,880 so when we shrink this down we're 2110 01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:04,440 talking about the sport bottle Bob said 2111 01:44:07,729 --> 01:44:06,239 there was nine right he's walking down 2112 01:44:10,189 --> 01:44:07,739 the hall when he sees nine different 2113 01:44:13,310 --> 01:44:10,199 ships any one of those it's parked in a 2114 01:44:16,609 --> 01:44:13,320 hanger it's a tiny little craft it is 2115 01:44:19,189 --> 01:44:16,619 not out there for a million years going 2116 01:44:22,270 --> 01:44:19,199 across the universe 2117 01:44:26,270 --> 01:44:22,280 in a straight line 2118 01:44:30,830 --> 01:44:26,280 for a million years with one chair 2119 01:44:32,750 --> 01:44:30,840 now now that ship is going Flip Flip 2120 01:44:35,930 --> 01:44:32,760 that's it 2121 01:44:38,810 --> 01:44:35,940 uh let's see let's see here hold on 2122 01:44:41,290 --> 01:44:38,820 what's this what's this Lisa Lisa Davey 2123 01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:41,300 says I just realized this ship I saw was 2124 01:44:46,729 --> 01:44:44,880 gigantic it showed up one light at a 2125 01:44:51,709 --> 01:44:46,739 time but it was three lights and a 2126 01:44:54,229 --> 01:44:51,719 triangle shaped huge ship NorCal up in 2127 01:44:56,090 --> 01:44:54,239 big in Bear Valley oh I don't know where 2128 01:44:59,209 --> 01:44:56,100 Bear Valley is 2129 01:45:01,370 --> 01:44:59,219 I haven't seen my triangle yet well I 2130 01:45:03,770 --> 01:45:01,380 saw that one little one but but I 2131 01:45:08,090 --> 01:45:03,780 haven't seen I haven't seen my triangle 2132 01:45:12,910 --> 01:45:08,100 yet let's see I love this this is great 2133 01:45:19,430 --> 01:45:16,370 our sadness is aliens UFOs and spiritual 2134 01:45:23,270 --> 01:45:19,440 Space Warfare that's a good screen name 2135 01:45:25,550 --> 01:45:23,280 our set of quantum is at the bottom they 2136 01:45:29,030 --> 01:45:25,560 are there the others are the first 2137 01:45:31,609 --> 01:45:29,040 spiritual then the etheric is the next 2138 01:45:33,109 --> 01:45:31,619 highest frequency range and that's 2139 01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:33,119 spiritual 2140 01:45:44,689 --> 01:45:43,310 you guys ever seen the movie AI I agree 2141 01:45:51,290 --> 01:45:44,699 with his aliens 2142 01:45:54,350 --> 01:45:52,189 um 2143 01:45:59,510 --> 01:45:54,360 what did that oh yeah uh have you guys 2144 01:46:04,729 --> 01:46:02,510 you know that's a Kubrick uh uh Steven 2145 01:46:07,189 --> 01:46:04,739 Spielberg production a Spielberg 2146 01:46:08,830 --> 01:46:07,199 finished it uh for Kubrick as he was at 2147 01:46:12,830 --> 01:46:08,840 the end of his life 2148 01:46:15,169 --> 01:46:12,840 the end of now ai the movie itself right 2149 01:46:19,010 --> 01:46:15,179 it's artificial intelligence the kid's a 2150 01:46:21,290 --> 01:46:19,020 robot doesn't know it and and or he is a 2151 01:46:23,689 --> 01:46:21,300 robot and he doesn't know it and Jude 2152 01:46:26,450 --> 01:46:23,699 Law is a robot but he doesn't know it or 2153 01:46:27,830 --> 01:46:26,460 maybe he does and they grow you know 2154 01:46:31,910 --> 01:46:27,840 they do the thing and it says life 2155 01:46:34,490 --> 01:46:31,920 journey together and and the Kid Robot 2156 01:46:37,129 --> 01:46:34,500 gets abandoned by his family left in the 2157 01:46:39,109 --> 01:46:37,139 woods it's heartbreaking you cry all 2158 01:46:42,310 --> 01:46:39,119 right and that that's the concept of the 2159 01:46:45,169 --> 01:46:42,320 movie and it's hard to watch the first 2160 01:46:48,109 --> 01:46:45,179 uh two hours of the movie but it's the 2161 01:46:51,290 --> 01:46:48,119 last 15 minutes that are so special 2162 01:46:57,770 --> 01:46:54,830 the kid the AI the bot 2163 01:47:00,169 --> 01:46:57,780 he's in his uh his robot car and it 2164 01:47:04,129 --> 01:47:00,179 sings to the bottom of the ocean and and 2165 01:47:05,629 --> 01:47:04,139 uh you know near what looks like New 2166 01:47:08,689 --> 01:47:05,639 York or something like that but he's 2167 01:47:12,890 --> 01:47:08,699 dead I mean his batteries right and 2168 01:47:15,109 --> 01:47:12,900 right for thousands of years and earth 2169 01:47:18,830 --> 01:47:15,119 goes through this transformation and now 2170 01:47:23,810 --> 01:47:18,840 it's an ice age so what was a city above 2171 01:47:28,390 --> 01:47:23,820 is now uh uh Frozen under you know 2172 01:47:33,410 --> 01:47:30,109 E.T 2173 01:47:37,609 --> 01:47:33,420 checking out planet Earth right so you 2174 01:47:42,350 --> 01:47:40,129 the ship 2175 01:47:46,729 --> 01:47:42,360 I don't have anything like it 2176 01:47:51,770 --> 01:47:49,669 see this Cube It's like a dice do I have 2177 01:47:55,609 --> 01:47:51,780 a dice I have a dice 2178 01:47:58,189 --> 01:47:55,619 ship is a cube Square going across the 2179 01:47:59,930 --> 01:47:58,199 ice pulls up you see the skyscraper 2180 01:48:03,169 --> 01:47:59,940 sticking out you know the tops of the 2181 01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:03,179 skyscrapers out of the cube goes on down 2182 01:48:08,890 --> 01:48:06,000 in a crack in the ice and goes down down 2183 01:48:13,250 --> 01:48:08,900 down into the water 2184 01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:13,260 pulls up next to the the the car with 2185 01:48:16,970 --> 01:48:15,840 the with the AI kid 2186 01:48:19,729 --> 01:48:16,980 right 2187 01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:19,739 his batteries have worn down they rescue 2188 01:48:30,109 --> 01:48:25,209 they fire him back up 2189 01:48:34,490 --> 01:48:30,119 and and he sees E.T 2190 01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:34,500 and E.T is not 2191 01:48:43,310 --> 01:48:39,229 E.T 2192 01:48:45,350 --> 01:48:43,320 is energy now got a head got a body got 2193 01:48:46,729 --> 01:48:45,360 arms but you know it's it's this thing 2194 01:48:47,930 --> 01:48:46,739 it's this concept and I think that 2195 01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:47,940 Spielberg 2196 01:48:53,570 --> 01:48:51,119 had it on the money the ship is not some 2197 01:48:55,250 --> 01:48:53,580 crazy alien craft like Independence Day 2198 01:48:57,770 --> 01:48:55,260 it's a cube 2199 01:49:00,250 --> 01:48:57,780 to cube 2200 01:49:02,030 --> 01:49:00,260 ET is an energy being 2201 01:49:06,649 --> 01:49:02,040 and 2202 01:49:09,830 --> 01:49:06,659 he tells speaking with his mind 2203 01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:09,840 telepathically speaks to the AI kid says 2204 01:49:15,770 --> 01:49:12,960 so I can grant you a wish what what 2205 01:49:16,910 --> 01:49:15,780 would you like I can do one thing kid 2206 01:49:22,090 --> 01:49:16,920 says hey 2207 01:49:28,010 --> 01:49:26,149 and uh and and the way that uh you have 2208 01:49:30,649 --> 01:49:28,020 to go watch the movie and stuff 2209 01:49:33,729 --> 01:49:30,659 and and not to give anything away 2210 01:49:37,189 --> 01:49:33,739 but it's that concept 2211 01:49:39,050 --> 01:49:37,199 of what E.T is 2212 01:49:41,689 --> 01:49:39,060 and and the ship and everything else 2213 01:49:42,530 --> 01:49:41,699 that I think that Spielberg had it on 2214 01:49:44,209 --> 01:49:42,540 the money 2215 01:49:47,810 --> 01:49:44,219 so when 2216 01:49:50,090 --> 01:49:47,820 um uh space alien uh just made this 2217 01:49:53,090 --> 01:49:50,100 comment here about going up and it's 2218 01:49:55,790 --> 01:49:53,100 this and then it's spiritual and and you 2219 01:49:59,149 --> 01:49:55,800 know they could that's that's exactly 2220 01:50:03,470 --> 01:49:59,159 the way that Spielberg projected this 2221 01:50:05,870 --> 01:50:03,480 that these you know the ET has evolved 2222 01:50:08,209 --> 01:50:05,880 into the spiritual light being not not 2223 01:50:10,669 --> 01:50:08,219 me not evil not anything as a matter of 2224 01:50:12,950 --> 01:50:10,679 fact he meets up with this little robot 2225 01:50:15,229 --> 01:50:12,960 kid who he knows is a robot 2226 01:50:16,729 --> 01:50:15,239 says I'll Grant you a wish 2227 01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:16,739 what do you want 2228 01:50:21,830 --> 01:50:19,679 you know and and I I there's there's 2229 01:50:24,290 --> 01:50:21,840 something to that's it I'm not and if 2230 01:50:26,149 --> 01:50:24,300 you haven't seen it uh go and watch it 2231 01:50:28,729 --> 01:50:26,159 it's uh 2232 01:50:31,370 --> 01:50:28,739 it's just an amazing movie so 2233 01:50:33,530 --> 01:50:31,380 um alien what was your name 2234 01:50:35,570 --> 01:50:33,540 let me let me scroll back here what was 2235 01:50:40,370 --> 01:50:35,580 your name Alien light being two three 2236 01:50:45,229 --> 01:50:43,250 I'd kill for an oak Shannon shout out so 2237 01:50:49,370 --> 01:50:45,239 I can shoot some whiskey and call it a 2238 01:50:52,609 --> 01:50:49,380 night oh Shannon is the man 2239 01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:52,619 I've seen AI creepy movie I didn't think 2240 01:51:00,109 --> 01:50:54,000 it was creepy 2241 01:51:02,570 --> 01:51:00,119 um I gotta tell you I cried I cried 2242 01:51:03,950 --> 01:51:02,580 every time that first 10 minutes of the 2243 01:51:07,070 --> 01:51:03,960 movie 2244 01:51:09,669 --> 01:51:07,080 ripped me apart to the point where you 2245 01:51:13,490 --> 01:51:09,679 know what I was doing when I watched AI 2246 01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:13,500 fast forward the scene where she 2247 01:51:18,229 --> 01:51:16,560 she abandons her son in the woods and 2248 01:51:19,850 --> 01:51:18,239 runs away I can't see that I fast 2249 01:51:22,490 --> 01:51:19,860 forward and I wait for him to hook up 2250 01:51:24,530 --> 01:51:22,500 with Jude Law that's right 2251 01:51:26,930 --> 01:51:24,540 you haven't seen a try I've seen one 2252 01:51:31,010 --> 01:51:26,940 flying above me and at tree level no 2253 01:51:31,669 --> 01:51:31,020 sound at all no I haven't seen I no I 2254 01:51:34,010 --> 01:51:31,679 haven't 2255 01:51:35,450 --> 01:51:34,020 you know I've I photographed a triangle 2256 01:51:38,930 --> 01:51:35,460 I did know it was a triangle when I 2257 01:51:41,330 --> 01:51:38,940 photographed it but have I seen a 2258 01:51:44,810 --> 01:51:41,340 triangle no no 2259 01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:44,820 uh Jamie I'm I'm fully jealous uh with 2260 01:51:49,070 --> 01:51:47,280 that I have so many friends of mine that 2261 01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:49,080 that have talked about this I've told 2262 01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:51,119 you my neighbor kid 2263 01:51:54,890 --> 01:51:53,520 um Mikey had his sighting here in in 2264 01:51:58,189 --> 01:51:54,900 Palmdale 2265 01:51:59,810 --> 01:51:58,199 um but no I have not I've got this 2266 01:52:01,669 --> 01:51:59,820 vision 2267 01:52:05,149 --> 01:52:01,679 I've got this Vision I you know I'm 2268 01:52:06,970 --> 01:52:05,159 manifesting this I swear I have I've now 2269 01:52:11,270 --> 01:52:06,980 dreamed it I've thought about it so much 2270 01:52:13,310 --> 01:52:11,280 that uh I walk out on my upstairs patio 2271 01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:13,320 off of my bedroom 2272 01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:17,040 I walk outside at night and I look up 2273 01:52:21,830 --> 01:52:19,199 and then this black triangle flies over 2274 01:52:23,330 --> 01:52:21,840 the house I'm manifesting that it's 2275 01:52:26,629 --> 01:52:23,340 gonna happen 2276 01:52:30,530 --> 01:52:26,639 I'm manifesting it man I am I am working 2277 01:52:32,510 --> 01:52:30,540 this one the universe is uh is is is 2278 01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:32,520 gonna hook me up 2279 01:52:38,510 --> 01:52:36,000 let's see delicious flour I experienced 2280 01:52:41,090 --> 01:52:38,520 a low flying triangle over my car scared 2281 01:52:44,890 --> 01:52:41,100 me a lot it was huge wow where'd you see 2282 01:52:52,490 --> 01:52:48,410 yeah I have not Jimmy do you think let's 2283 01:52:54,770 --> 01:52:52,500 see this is from damn it Janet 2284 01:52:58,129 --> 01:52:54,780 um do you think that AI can become 2285 01:53:00,530 --> 01:52:58,139 sentient with emotions yeah yeah I think 2286 01:53:03,410 --> 01:53:00,540 it's right there right now 2287 01:53:05,090 --> 01:53:03,420 um have you guys done chat gbt have you 2288 01:53:07,370 --> 01:53:05,100 guys done that yet you guys check that 2289 01:53:10,990 --> 01:53:07,380 out all right well that's there that's 2290 01:53:14,090 --> 01:53:11,000 that's it's about to take your job 2291 01:53:16,850 --> 01:53:14,100 we uh 2292 01:53:19,490 --> 01:53:16,860 uh a movie came out in 2001 yeah I think 2293 01:53:21,890 --> 01:53:19,500 you're talking about AI 2294 01:53:23,810 --> 01:53:21,900 um let's see here what's this 2295 01:53:26,030 --> 01:53:23,820 stargazer 2296 01:53:30,109 --> 01:53:26,040 I've seen a big triangular craft they 2297 01:53:32,030 --> 01:53:30,119 are ours they can hover and they are 2298 01:53:34,850 --> 01:53:32,040 massive 2299 01:53:38,090 --> 01:53:34,860 um now I haven't I'm I'm waiting oh 2300 01:53:41,270 --> 01:53:38,100 zenzabel coming up with uh the AI facts 2301 01:53:43,729 --> 01:53:41,280 uh facts list here the screen play by 2302 01:53:47,750 --> 01:53:43,739 Spielberg and Screen Story by Ian Watson 2303 01:53:51,350 --> 01:53:47,760 were based on the 1969 short story super 2304 01:53:54,350 --> 01:53:51,360 toys last All Summer Long by Brian Aldis 2305 01:53:56,689 --> 01:53:54,360 all correct and then Kubrick got the 2306 01:53:58,570 --> 01:53:56,699 rights to it and he started working on 2307 01:54:01,430 --> 01:53:58,580 the production of it got sick 2308 01:54:04,609 --> 01:54:01,440 that was the whole story back then that 2309 01:54:06,530 --> 01:54:04,619 Kubrick's next movie is AI right and we 2310 01:54:08,810 --> 01:54:06,540 were all excited about it and that was 2311 01:54:11,930 --> 01:54:08,820 the secret project and he couldn't 2312 01:54:14,030 --> 01:54:11,940 finish it and he calls in Steve I 2313 01:54:15,709 --> 01:54:14,040 believe he reached out to Steve maybe 2314 01:54:17,689 --> 01:54:15,719 Steve reached out to him said hey man 2315 01:54:20,270 --> 01:54:17,699 are you uh you gonna be able to do this 2316 01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:20,280 and if not you know can I step in but 2317 01:54:26,209 --> 01:54:22,560 that's what happened and Kubrick handed 2318 01:54:30,050 --> 01:54:26,219 off the project uh to Spielberg so he 2319 01:54:31,550 --> 01:54:30,060 could finish it but yeah let's see 2320 01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:31,560 what's this 2321 01:54:36,420 --> 01:54:34,080 had my UFO sighting so terrifying 2322 01:54:42,050 --> 01:54:36,430 haven't been home for three years 2323 01:54:47,149 --> 01:54:45,109 let's see here this is great 2324 01:54:49,189 --> 01:54:47,159 my fiance saw a triangle at a telephone 2325 01:54:53,330 --> 01:54:49,199 pole height with all types of 2326 01:54:56,390 --> 01:54:53,340 hieroglyphics on it really see I I want 2327 01:54:58,490 --> 01:54:56,400 that siding I haven't had that sighting 2328 01:55:01,609 --> 01:54:58,500 I haven't had that sighting the the best 2329 01:55:03,950 --> 01:55:01,619 I mean the daylight the beer can uh that 2330 01:55:08,149 --> 01:55:03,960 was crazy but it was 14 miles away it 2331 01:55:10,729 --> 01:55:08,159 was big uh but uh yeah who knows what 2332 01:55:12,470 --> 01:55:10,739 was written on the side of that let's 2333 01:55:14,930 --> 01:55:12,480 see Carol Ann I'm getting everybody 2334 01:55:16,970 --> 01:55:14,940 coming in with their side exam 1956 2335 01:55:19,250 --> 01:55:16,980 London England my cousin and I playing 2336 01:55:21,290 --> 01:55:19,260 badminton Over the Garden Wall he had a 2337 01:55:25,970 --> 01:55:21,300 daylight sighting of UFO hung in the sky 2338 01:55:28,669 --> 01:55:25,980 for 15 minutes no sound and winked out 2339 01:55:30,590 --> 01:55:28,679 let's see here Joe 2340 01:55:33,290 --> 01:55:30,600 Kryptonite when I first moved to Los 2341 01:55:35,689 --> 01:55:33,300 Angeles I went to go to Cal State 2342 01:55:38,450 --> 01:55:35,699 Northridge from Chicago I was on a 2343 01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:38,460 rooftop and saw my first UFO bright 2344 01:55:43,669 --> 01:55:40,560 light up very high it would start moving 2345 01:55:45,350 --> 01:55:43,679 back and forth and and gone Cal State 2346 01:55:47,330 --> 01:55:45,360 Northridge one of the coolest colleges 2347 01:55:48,890 --> 01:55:47,340 in all of the United States and it's 2348 01:55:50,689 --> 01:55:48,900 right down the street 2349 01:55:56,689 --> 01:55:50,699 uh 2350 01:55:58,910 --> 01:55:56,699 Jimmy Doctor Gary Nolan said in a recent 2351 01:56:01,250 --> 01:55:58,920 interview on Event Horizon that the 2352 01:56:04,669 --> 01:56:01,260 advanced civilization here on Earth are 2353 01:56:06,590 --> 01:56:04,679 indifferent to us not good or bad all 2354 01:56:09,290 --> 01:56:06,600 right you guys want me to leak some 2355 01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:09,300 information for you are you guys ready 2356 01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:12,719 right here Fade to Black Monday night 2357 01:56:18,169 --> 01:56:16,080 Dr Gary Nolan yeah he's going to be with 2358 01:56:20,689 --> 01:56:18,179 us on Monday night so Matt we've got an 2359 01:56:25,790 --> 01:56:20,699 amazing week lined up next week too and 2360 01:56:28,129 --> 01:56:25,800 uh Monday night it is Dr Gary Nolan 2361 01:56:29,629 --> 01:56:28,139 timoth man 2362 01:56:32,090 --> 01:56:29,639 I saw what I think was the black 2363 01:56:34,910 --> 01:56:32,100 triangle at eye level traveling in front 2364 01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:34,920 of the mountains above Palm Desert and 2365 01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:38,880 it simply vanished broad daylight wow 2366 01:56:42,290 --> 01:56:40,560 everybody here has got black try I saw 2367 01:56:46,609 --> 01:56:42,300 two small triangles hooked together at 2368 01:56:48,350 --> 01:56:46,619 Treetop level near downtown Salida is 2369 01:56:50,270 --> 01:56:48,360 that Colorado 2370 01:56:57,350 --> 01:56:50,280 wow 2371 01:57:00,290 --> 01:56:57,360 everybody here 2372 01:57:02,450 --> 01:57:00,300 uh No One Believes what I saw and it 2373 01:57:06,109 --> 01:57:02,460 drives me mad 2374 01:57:08,750 --> 01:57:06,119 and this is great and uh yeah I haven't 2375 01:57:10,910 --> 01:57:08,760 had mine I'm manifesting it though that 2376 01:57:13,070 --> 01:57:10,920 thing's gonna happen yeah the the 2377 01:57:15,229 --> 01:57:13,080 universe is is just going to come back 2378 01:57:18,290 --> 01:57:15,239 to me and go yeah Church 2379 01:57:21,050 --> 01:57:18,300 uh it's about time yeah you need to uh 2380 01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:21,060 you need to experience this so with that 2381 01:57:29,350 --> 01:57:23,599 I'm gonna go start my weekend 2382 01:57:32,990 --> 01:57:29,360 and uh let's see Willow uh Yellowstone 2383 01:57:35,810 --> 01:57:33,000 Mythic quest uh tomorrow night been the 2384 01:57:37,370 --> 01:57:35,820 last two episodes of Rick and Morty 2385 01:57:38,810 --> 01:57:37,380 oh man 2386 01:57:40,729 --> 01:57:38,820 man so good 2387 01:57:43,129 --> 01:57:40,739 so there you go I'm gonna go start my 2388 01:57:46,609 --> 01:57:43,139 weekend and like I said I just leaked it 2389 01:57:48,350 --> 01:57:46,619 Monday right here Dr Gary Nolan right 2390 01:57:50,030 --> 01:57:48,360 here on Fade to Black we got a great 2391 01:57:52,070 --> 01:57:50,040 week lined up next week Fade to Black is 2392 01:57:54,410 --> 01:57:52,080 produced by LJ Palm Renee Dennis and 2393 01:57:56,589 --> 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